You are correct. I tend to avoid as many of those as possible. But if I have to pay for a lot of things just to get that one thing I want I am going to evaluate the actual need for that one thing to the use of all of what I have to pay for. In this case I will have to pay for so much other stuff that I will never use it just doesn’t make any sense to pay. I just cant do without my hockey, so for that I am gonna pay what I need to pay. In that case I will get a sports package and I will watch other sports that is included since I love sports. I will get som extra value. In this case I will not. This is about shows I watch and to watch my shows I pay for Netflix, Disney, Prime etc…
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Ok, let’s just take Netflix…. I doubt you watch every single movie and series that Netflix produces. Do you think Netflix should lower its cost if you only watch a couple of its shows?
I watch a lot of Netflix shows and movies. I pay for shows and movies and that is what I am getting back. Despite not watching everything I still get my moneys worth of shows and movies. I use one feature at trakt, the Calender (for which I need the watch list). I’m obviously not a customer that trakt wants since I am using to few of its features. Its fine, I will have to look for alternatives.
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What does this even mean? What is your logic? That paying sixty bucks only to have a usable watchlist is okay because when you pay for Netflix you don’t watch every single movie and series? What is even your point?
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You just won’t quit!
He made a point that he doesn’t use all the features of VIP.
The argument is a la carte pricing vs platform pricing.
As you already know, I’m a supporter of Trakt and am tired of your bitching.
Just find another platform if you don’t like this service.
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Try some of these workarounds
I’m pretty sure these conspiracy-like assumptions have been addressed. I’m also pretty sure others, maybe mainly free user’s, appreciate you trying to advocate for improvements to the free tier but as it’s already been explained, we pay per, VIP, Younify user, not all our users, so you could consider that coming directly our of your VIP subscription if you use it.
Many companies adjust branding and colours without a ‘Take over’ from a company that happens to have a similar colour. Trakt has partnered with many companies over the years, such as JustWatch for the streaming links. Younify happened to have a solution for Automatic Tracking from streaming services and coincidentally had a similar colour. There’s only so many colours and many are bound to have the same. In fact, a fair few of the third party Trakt apps also use purple, but that doesn’t mean it was them taking over Trakt, or that Trakt was taken over by them.
If, and I mean only IF, changes happened in regards to other VIP costs that affect you as an existing VIP then you’d have the right to bring your pitchforks.
I’m sure many people make statements they’d like to hold to but it’s also quite normal for companies to adjust their offerings and increase their prices over time, especially when different value is added whether recently, or in the near future, regardless of how many statements were made in the past that effect a low % of users.
At least you try to address these things, even if it is like a politician lol.
So if it’s so few users affected, why implement it at all? So few users = so few VIP conversions. I think live and let live would have been better in this one case.
Re: Younify, I’ll never use it as I don’t trust them (looked at t+c, privacy, etc), but I understand others find it helpful and it’s part of the VIP package and price whether I use it or not 
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Well I guess I have to try give my best perspective of how I view the changes even if they’re not necessarily a final decision from myself. The important part is for Trakt to deal with facts/stats. But those facts/stats won’t change overnight and might take a few months at least - the amount of users who’ve come to the forums or reddit with issues with limits seems to be in the hundreds, but Trakt has users in the thousands/millions, and just as with the rebranding, it’s almost impossible to keep everyone happy. It just means if in the future we have to make more changes to course correct, you get to point and laugh.
For what it’s worth, I don’t use the Younfiy integration myself, more-so because I’m a sucker for accuracy, and it’s really not that accurate due to how it works behind the scenes (maybe it’ll get better, maybe it won’t). Your concerns are otherwise reasonable, but I guess that’s why it’s always up to the user to decide based on the t+s/privacy policies, even if really users shouldn’t have to worry about all that, but unfortunately not every company “cares”, for lack of better description, about user data/privacy/security.
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Both mean the same thing.
That only means that even though you pay Younify for the 1% of users that use it, you charge 100% of the VIP users for it while also creating a larger disparity between free and VIP in the hopes that more users would give VIP a try and use Younify in the process.
Why? Because most pricing models where a two company have partnered up and licensed a feature usually have one of the three pricing models.
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Get a fixed cut from every paid subscription. IE: 15$ on every $60 VIP.
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Tiered pricing with decreasing marginal costs (could instead be a similar structure - decreasing average cost). IE: $20000 for first 1000users, $19000 for the next 1000 making it $39000 in total for 2000users and so on.
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Tiered pricing with per-user rate. IE: $100 per user for 1000users, $75 per user for 2000 users and so on.
So, since you are saying you only pay for the people who use it, if less people use it, the cost is significantly higher no matter if you went with marginal cost, average cost or per user cost. It is most likely bleeding VIP users who don’t use Younify and free users as well as the need for converting them to VIP arises. It’s worse if instead of going with a Younify users model, you went with a Younify usage model, which seems more likely the case since your freemium approach.
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Whoops, I meant “them taking over Trakt or Trakt taking over them.” 
In general this is going a bit off topic as we’re this topic is otherwise solved but as one last response - perhaps otherwise create another thread or using an existing thread where it’s been discussed - VIP Costs Too High?.
For the prices, I don’t know them myself, and I’m unsure it’s necessary for Trakt to disclose that but sure, most of those pricing models might be standard. Even if it was $15 or $20 per user (which seems high?), if we assume the majority of VIPs are paying $30 as of up until last year, then that still covers that completely so I don’t see the problem. The rest of the price difference has also been discussed in terms of it not changing for 9 years, plus the company expanding and paying for resources to run everything behind the scenes.
My point being: Just because the price changes happened around the same time doesn’t mean it’s completely related to Younfiy costs. But if that’s what you want to assume and focus on, I can’t stop you.
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Hi Justin, It counts items, which is an episode. I do not have over 100 shows in my collection. If it should only count a show, then something is not working like it should. I do not collect movies.
If a show counts as an item then why can’t I add an single episode to my collection for a show I have in my collection already.
I took a look at your account and you have 850 shows in your collection, as well as 24 movies. Your watchlist is under 100 items though.
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Indeed, but why can’t I add an episode to a show which is already in my collection, if episodes do not count to the limit? Watchlist of 100 is too limited.
The collection consist of shows that have now ended, and are awaiting to be watched. The shows that are still running are also in my collection, but these should be able to be added to the watchlist, as you want to know when new episodes emerge.
I just do not get why you should limit the amount of shows to be collected.
You are just losing me with these insane limits, and high VIP-price.
P.s. The movies were once 1 or 2 shows, but due to the way they are registered by the TVDB the episodes are now counting as movies.
The collection is for items you own physically or digitally, as it say here, not for what you plan to watch. That’s what the watchlist is for. But it has already been explained to you, many times.
Are you able to make a real valid response. I know what collection is. They are my CD DVD’s, BluRays and Digital downloads. I want to watch these eventually, so your remark is simply pointless.
As said before, and I now know it was not intended as such. I use watchlist for the shows I am currently watching. What is in the name of the list.
Up, it makes no sense to limit even that I would even pay the plan, but it’s very expensive (more expensive than streamings) simply makes no sense and lately are making some very stupid decisions that are making me think of leaving Trakt
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Then don’t be surprised it fills up so quick!
Tone deaf. Switching to a different service.
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I know that this is a community supported app but why people do think they are entitled to run someone’s business? Ultimately, we are customers and while I’m sure @justin is open to input, it is his business to run and make decisions whether we like them or not.
@RibeanieBaby , you are making the right decision. People should take their business elsewhere if they are unhappy with any business. I don’t really think it’s necessary to announce it though.
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