# VIP Costs Too High?

**URL:** <https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [February 22, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441 "2025-02-22T20:42:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![justin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/justin/32/57447_2.png) [@justin](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/33 "2025-02-26T19:09:36Z")

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> [@kraftynic](#):
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> How about giving the actual data then? Not just refuting what everyone says (quoting back “in your opinion”, “speculation”, etc) or just saying it has to be.

Trakt is a privately owned company, we don’t share financials publicly. You don’t have to like that answer, but I don’t think we are unique with having private financials as a privately owner company,

> [@kraftynic](#):
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> but it’s still just columns in tables with data - small beans

Ha, no. We of course have a database as the foundation for everything, but again you are severely underestimating the infrastructure required to run Trakt.

> [@kraftynic](#):
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> The biggest thing will be the salaries. So unless you all took 30-40% salary increase last year, it shouldn’t equate to 100% price hike.

As with any business, salaries are of course a large expense.

> [@kraftynic](#):
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> It seems the only one even trying to answer the questions honestly is @Ohifriend and he more or less admits he has no say in many of the decisions. You yourself basically just seem to say “tough luck, we don’t care” and dont seem to actually answer people’s concerns.

I do appreciate @Ohifriend jumping in to help answer things. I am also trying to answer and clarify misconceptions. Of course I care as does the entire Trakt team. It’s ok to not like my answers, but that doesn’t mean I don’t care.

> [@itiswhatitis](#):
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> While you denied that 99% of VIP users are not at grandfathered rate, you can’t prove it. And since the price increase came less than 6months, I find it hard to believe most people didn’t lock in before the increase and are forced to stick with it. Even if it’s not 99%, I still believe it’s in the high 90’s.

You’re welcome to believe that, but it isn’t true.

> [@itiswhatitis](#):
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> Now imagine if they merged, their prices will go down and yours will stay at $60, grabbing all your users while you are out here promoting Younify and increasing prices for them.

This is the definition of speculation. 🤷

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**Author:** ![sp1ti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/sp1ti/32/56549_2.png) [@sp1ti](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/sp1ti)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/36 "2025-02-26T20:54:19Z")

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> [@kraftynic](#):
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> That is what columns and tables are, a database. Not very large files, even with thousands and thousands of entries. If we are “underestimating” this “infrastructure” then why not set us straight?

partial costs were made public a long time ago when images were stopped being served through trakt itself in the API (and that traffic redirected to TMDB thereby) [Trakt API Images will be removed on October 31, 2016 | by Trakt | Trakt API Blog | Medium](https://medium.com/api-news/trakt-api-images-56b43c356427)  
that is from over 10 years ago however so I’m sure the dynamics have changed, and the site did improve a lot in stability. I’m sure it’s not pennies (plenty of mobile apps hook into it to). but as Justin said, I don’t think he is gonna give you what you’re looking for. Looks like they’re willing to take that risk.  
My assumption for the hike was the expanded team, never really looked into the younify thing (I don’t use the scrobbler) but it does sound like they indeed get their cut. if I’m not mistaken so does justwatch. it’s just TVDB who was never considered to be worthwhile to be payed for…

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**Author:** ![CajunRob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/cajunrob/32/50586_2.png) [@CajunRob](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/CajunRob)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/37 "2025-02-26T20:54:59Z")

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> [@itiswhatitis](#):
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> As I said in a previous thread, my India regional price is $18, which is in fact more than the Yearly subscription of Disney+, Prime Video, etc in India but still better than the grandfather rate

TIL that what I pay for Amazon Prime and Disney+ is substantially, like absurdly, more than some others pay. Amazon Prime is $14.99/month or $139 per year. Disney+ anywhere from $9.99/month for a basic to $159.99 per year for an ad free subscription. Pity there’s no Amazon Forum I can go tell Bezos how to run his business and question their pricing and services…

Anyways, time for me to unfollow this topic because it’s going around and around in circles and everything has already been answered by Justin at this point while his answers are still being questioned.

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**Author:** ![Maddcow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/maddcow/32/55695_2.png) [@Maddcow](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/Maddcow)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/40 "2025-02-26T22:05:18Z")

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Prime is AU$79 a year for me in Australia (including all the free shipping) whereas Trakt is approx AU$100 per year (if paid annually, otherwise it’s AU$120 if paid monthly). There’s something very wrong with Trakt’s pricing structure when a database service costs significantly more than a value-loaded content subscription for Prime.

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**Author:** ![gsbence](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/gsbence/32/49867_2.png) [@gsbence](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/gsbence)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/43 "2025-02-27T18:07:10Z")

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Regional pricing would help the user base with the recent limitations.  
It would not solve the issue of Trakt being worse than it was for non-VIP (and also VIP) users, but it might lighten the situation a bit.

As an example, in Hungary, Trakt costs the same as one of these (when looking at the yearly price for each at the discounted rate) services:

- Netflix (720p, no ads) ~ half of the US price
- Prime ~ third of the US price
- Max (Standard) ~ half of the US price
- Disney+ (Standard) ~ half of the US price

We could argue about the value of these streaming services and Trakt, but in my opinion, a tracking service should not cost as much as an actual streaming service.

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**Author:** ![user21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/user21/32/19990_2.png) [@user21](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/user21)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/44 "2025-03-05T16:09:00Z")

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My dear, you are completely confused in your answers while changing your shoes in the air​:smirking\_face:: first, you close access to the service from my country (Russia) and cancel your free subscription, then they complain that the costs have increased and there is nothing to pay with. Where is the logic ???🤔🤔  
PS Oh, by the way, how about paying the authors of the Kodi plugin that they developed for free to access your service ??🤔

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**Author:** ![tabs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/tabs/32/25490_2.png) [@tabs](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/tabs)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/45 "2025-03-13T14:23:23Z")

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I don’t subscribe to the auto-payment feature. So I went to buy another year and learned the price of VIP is 200% of previous year because I’m not now a member. Also observing my lists have each been limited. I guess message received.

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**Author:** ![lifeiscrazy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/lifeiscrazy/32/36890_2.png) [@lifeiscrazy](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/lifeiscrazy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/47 "2025-03-14T12:27:55Z")

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There’s no ads though!

I don’t know where you’re seeing ads but can’t be anything native Trakt. Maybe a third party app?

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**Author:** ![lifeiscrazy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/lifeiscrazy/32/36890_2.png) [@lifeiscrazy](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/lifeiscrazy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/49 "2025-03-14T13:30:48Z")

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Do you have a screenshot and link of the page?

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**Author:** ![Whyte\_Rhabit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/whyte_rhabit/32/25638_2.png) [@Whyte\_Rhabit](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/Whyte_Rhabit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/50 "2025-03-14T14:15:07Z")

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Trakt is roughly $2.50 A MONTH and that’s still ONLY if you want to pay that.

I’ve definitely spent more on coffee more times than I can count so I don’t mind paying the cost.

The simple thing is if you don’t want it, you don’t have to have it.

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**Author:** ![tronix00](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/tronix00/32/24125_2.png) [@tronix00](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/tronix00)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/51 "2025-03-14T15:00:03Z")

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$2.50 only for old VIPs…

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**Author:** ![Whyte\_Rhabit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/whyte_rhabit/32/25638_2.png) [@Whyte\_Rhabit](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/Whyte_Rhabit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/52 "2025-03-14T16:10:31Z")

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That may be however even at $5 right now that’s £3.84 GBP a month which is less than a large coffee…so my point still stands. I don’t mind paying for someone or a teams hard effort is what I’m saying. especially if it’s a product I use, time is money after all. Old VIPs have also been paying for longer so if anything newer members are just playing catch up…

Maybe another option where you get less features might solve that then? I’m not taking sides. Just merely giving my opinion.

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**Author:** ![iliasbatman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/iliasbatman/32/50339_2.png) [@iliasbatman](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/iliasbatman)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/53 "2025-03-14T18:32:28Z")

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> [@legendkiller2k](#):
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> I use the website and there are ads.

Ads for Trakt on Trakt don’t count as ads…

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**Author:** ![justin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/justin/32/57447_2.png) [@justin](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/54 "2025-03-14T18:41:08Z")

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Regional VIP pricing is now available in iOS.

> [@Regional VIP Pricing in iOS](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/regional-vip-pricing-in-ios/50149):
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> Regional VIP pricing is now available in the Trakt iOS app! tada[[image] ](https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeHc3YXphMTFraHJqenphaG1jNnA5MDFtbTJzZmY1NmVzamNvMDIyciZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/E10XLocTBI52yLJVnO/giphy.gif)How do you determine pricing? We standardized on the Apple Music pricing index for now. We’ll continue to experiment with other pricing models too, so pricing could adjust up or down in the future. What about Android? We’re planning to bring the same regional pricing to Android once we can find an app or service to help automate the process.

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**Author:** ![otakunet21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/otakunet21/32/53600_2.png) [@otakunet21](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/otakunet21)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/55 "2025-03-14T22:01:37Z")

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there are no third party ads on trakt at all. and like someone else mentioned trakt advertising trakt doesn’t count

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/57 "2025-03-18T17:51:55Z")

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You don’t have it so bad. I live in Canada and recently paid my $60. and got charged $90.02 Canadian. I have removed auto renewal and will see what the exchange rate is at that time. I didn’t mind the $60, but I do object to the $90.

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**Author:** ![jluftman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/jluftman/32/42676_2.png) [@jluftman](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/jluftman)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/60 "2025-03-19T18:17:07Z")

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I hope all the “1” ratings closed their Trakt accounts. I wouldn’t use any app I rated a 1 even if it was free.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/61 "2025-03-19T22:16:28Z")

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This is Google Play rating. Does not really prove anything really as iOS app stands at 4.5 so…

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/62 "2025-03-20T10:19:02Z")

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I apologize immediately for my bad English. I have been using Trakt for 13 years. I would like to say a huge thank you to the team for the excellent service. Of course it was unpleasant to learn about the new restrictions. I work in the sphere related to websites, so I understand very well how expensive it can be to maintain servers and support such a product.  
But for my region the price of VIP is really quite expensive. And I don’t even have the opportunity to pay directly, and I don’t think there will be regional prices for me in the near future.  
I also understand that the subscription should cost a certain amount, so that the number of VIP users to cover the costs.  
But maybe it makes sense to think about a super lite version of the subscription for around 1$ where there will be nothing - Reviews, Stats, Autotracking, Filtering, Backups, Export even Lists and Collections. Just unlimited Watchlist.  
It is clear that there are those features in VIP for the sake of which most people buy a subscription, and it is most likely Lists, Collections, maybe Filters and adding such a tariff will probably break the economy, but without Watchlist the service becomes almost unusable.

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**Author:** ![Mjkab](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/mjkab/32/45879_2.png) [@Mjkab](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/Mjkab)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/64 "2025-04-03T22:31:36Z")

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I am willing to pay $30 per year, the problem is that I made the first subscription through Google Play via the app and when I canceled the subscription because I wanted to pay annually and not monthly, the subscription went back to $60 instead of $30, $60 is too much, a shame  
I currently only have 1 day of VIP left. 😬

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