# VIP Costs Too High? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [February 22, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441 "2025-02-22T20:42:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 30
**Author:** ![justin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.trakt.tv/justin/32/57447_2.png) [@justin](https://forums.trakt.tv/u/justin)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441/30 "2025-02-26T17:57:51Z")
> [@itiswhatitis](#): > > the other offering from the VIP subscription are pretty standard or weak so the only thing that can justify majority of a $60 subscription is the automation of tracking that is Younify. In your opinion, sure. Many other VIP members see value in the other features. > [@itiswhatitis](#): > > You increased the VIP price but aren’t 99% of your VIP users already on a grandfathered rate? No. While I appreciate all the speculation in your post most of the assumptions are simply wrong. I posted a previous reply [here](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/freemium-experience-more-features-for-all-with-usage-limits/41641/539) with more info related to what you wrote. > [@itiswhatitis](#): > > Exactly, they are locking the existing users from leaving more than anything. This model only supports the existing users and is infact a ploy to keep them forever than add new revenue. Not sure I understand this logic. We aren’t holding anyone hostage with their VIP membership. It’s up to the member to decide if the price is worth the value they are receiving, whether that is a long time VIP supporter or a new signup. > [@kraftynic](#): > > From what I can see revenue was just under a quarter of a million in 2023. Servers would only touch a fraction of that and everything is pretty much automated from other websites (who don’t charge users for their use), so that’s got to be a small bill too. We have never released revenue numbers, so no idea where you are getting these numbers from. You are also severely underestimating the infrastructure costs required to run Trakt at the scale we have. > [@kraftynic](#): > > TMDb is completely free for end users The company that owns TMDB is subsidizing those costs. > [@kraftynic](#): > > Maybe I’m being dim, but if Younify is 100% free for users, where does the cost come in? > [@warregubbi](#): > > Your mixing Younify’s app ‘Younify TV’ (their B2C offering) with ‘Younify Connect’ (their B2B product) > > Them offering something free to their users doesn’t mean they provide their services for free to other companies (like Trakt). Yes, @warregubbi is correct. These are 2 different offerings with the free Younify app being more of a proof of concept of what their SDK offers. > [@itiswhatitis](#): > > So you are telling me, Younify, the site that advertises “everything you’re watching now and everything you want to watch, all in one place.” and “All of Your Watchlists Together At Last” is totally free to use but Trakt, that is partnered with Younify, wants us to pay $60 for us to have a watchlist greater than 100? Again, this speculation is interesting to read but not based on any actual data. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.trakt.tv/t/vip-costs-too-high/47441)._