From what I understand youâre saying here, from February, instead of using the Library for my physical collection, I will be forced to add them to a custom list. Because to me that is what I consider âthe pushâ, that is when the changes directly impacts me by downgrading my library to a list without the ability to filter them by metadata.
I just want a simple clarification before I start looking elsewhere; starting February, will I still have the ability to manually add to my Library or not?
Maybe i misunderstood. On the new app (from my android device, i still use old trakt on my desktop pc) whereâs the option to add an item to the library? Iâm totally missing it.
Kevin, I just donât get it and I donât get why.
A library is a library. If I go to my local council-run library, I can get digital and physical media. At home, I keep my physical media next to my digital media players. They coexist and thatâs how it should be. Why force physical media into a separate list?
To me, itâs just another downgrade to functionality and how people happily use this website. Coupled with the fact that the Library isnât on V3 at launch, itâs like a full VIP feature has almost been nuked - and after youâve asked people to pay more money for said VIP features.
I cancelled my VIP in June and have been waiting for the much-mooted upgrades to justify the increase. All I see are downgrades - including this. How can you continue to justify less functionality for more money?
Well the issue of being able to press play to determine whether it is in the Library is somewhat strange then. Like I mentioned, for those of us using a TV to watch that basically negates you considering a digital file as being in our library. Thatâs a limitation because for example Roku doesnât allow cross app linking.
One thing that Iâve noticed as I am going through my list of collected items in my library is that Trakt appears to be classifying digital items as BluRay after syncing from Plex. Iâm not sure whether this is because itâs picking up the source from the filenames used or what. But surely anything synced from Plex should automatically be considered digital, no? Even if it isnât necessarily playable because of App permissions. It also seems to me that much of the reliance of being âplayableâ from some site is based on Justwatch finding where (if anywhere) something is currently able to be streamed. That negates anything we might have purchased digitally or own through a service already.
The Privacy concern I mentioned I expanded on in a second response. Your move going forward seems to require permission for Trakt to access streaming accounts we have. Thatâs a lot of faith tbh for users to put into Trakt. Especially with accounts like Amazon that could be used to purchase items, or Apple that could compromise devices.
Maybe a clearer explanation of what the end goal is and how Trakt envisions this working would be better.
Because right now some things just donât seem very well thought out.
ETA. After downloading the CSV files for my Library, I can now definitely see that anything imported from Plex that had the source of the file set as a BluRay in the filename (e.g. move.title.year.BluRay.resolution.audio codec.video codec) is currently being tagged as Media type=1 in the watch list instead of media type=0). Unfortunately from what I can see thereâs no way of uploading an edited version of the Library to accurately fix the items to be correctly displayed. Am I honestly expected to manually one by one edit >1000 items?
I generally donât use the library because I donât particularly want Trakt to know what I own (which spans across both physical and digital - my family has a massive physical collection that I would expect to be in my library if I used the feature), but as a long-time user of the site, I feel compelled to ask why this is being prioritised when there are so many other things in-flight that are not finished yet?
Question: what about digital items I own that are not able to be automatically synced to trakt?
I currently use the collection/library for purely digital content that I own. I do sometimes use Plex, but not always.
Second question: I like to manually mark things as watched. I donât want Plex to sync my watches to Trakt automatically. I wonât mind too much (though it is still a bit annoying) if I can sync my library from Plex but keep scrobbling disabled. Is this possible?
UPDATE: after some investigation it looks like the Plex sync forces me to also sync watches as well as library. Iâm also not entirely sure, but it looks like I might have to pay for Plex Pass in order to sync my library to Trakt? Is this accurate? I have no intention of paying for Plex Pass and I do not want my Plex plays to sync with Trakt automatically, so this doesnât look like itâs going to work for me at all.
he means thereâs no eta for the library change. theyâre announcing the plans with no official date, only that in february they will have the tool available that he mentioned.
Weâd like the Library to be actionable.
Lists can be used for manual curation/archiving/logging.
The Library has never been (that I recall) a paid feature. It is now limited to 100 items but itâs not a VIP feature.
Now, again, we are not removing functionality, we are making them evolve. Ultimately, we want to make them better for free and VIP users.
If privacy is a concern, moving your Library to a List that can be set to private is a good option.
That is what we are doing now.
If you can press a Play button from Trakt to start watching something somewhere, it belongs in your Library.
The dream is to simply browse Trakt to find the best content to watch, then trigger playback on your preferred Media Center player.
We have a goal, we communicate our plan early but we also listen to your feedback and move along those lines to get to the dream. The room we let ourselves to adapt is seen as a weakness (ânot well thought out planâ) when in fact it is a strength.
No, we want to avoid that. Maybe this specific feedback (Plex Sync not tagging the media correctly) would be better addressed in the Trakt Plex Sync thread. Justin is currently OoO but heâll be able to take a look when he is back.
Itâs been answered above but it boils down to the fact that it makes more sense to work on the future plan for the Library than to just copy the existing one that doesnât fit the long term vision. Users have been asking for the plan for the Library, this is it.
We juggle with a lot of priorities and this one needed clarification. I hope it makes sense now. If you have other more pressing concerns, please let us know (in another thread).
You currently add them manually to your Library. Youâll add them manually to a List.
And thatâs okay.
You can enable/disable a lot of things with the Plex Sync settings. Iâm not 100% sure as Iâm not a Plex user myself but Iâm pretty sure you can disable scrobbling and enable library sync only.
About Plex Pass:
Plex Pass is not required like it is for the Plex Webhook.
Just make sure you are using this: Plex Sync â¨
I know thereâs some confusion about the different Plex Sync options.
I donât have a strong answer for this yet. We are thinking about giving those transferred lists as free additional lists or just give anyone 1 more free list, it all depends a bit how we build the transfer tool but itâs a legit concern that we take seriously into account.
Currently, the Library items can be tagged with additional metadata. I was talking about that.
Iâll update my announcement to focus less on the physical VS digital aspect. The focus should be on the manual VS automatic curation and the actionability instead. Sorry about that.
Can you clarify this? If you currently have a mix of digital and physical items in your Library that you encoded, you will have the same mix with a List and will continue to curate it manually. The thing that will change is the button and the metadata/filters (as I said above we are aware of those and will improve at the list level, so youâll have the same or even better). Nothing changes in regard to the âmixâ and what you decide to manually encode.
If the library is going to be used for items that can be clicked on to play directly from the app, for people that dont use a media centre, the library will be irrelevant, it serves no purpose
I would be happy to use this if it had the option not to sync watches/ratings from Plex. I notice this Plex Sync feature is still in beta. Is it possible this option could be added? Is there somewhere I could officially request this?
To clarify, and forgive me for not understanding all your Techy terms as I am an old phart and my PC/Internet knowledge is limited.
What do you mean by âencodedâ? Green âLibraryâ icon marked?
What I understand from your comments is that you will move all those items I have marked in my Library (collected, the green icon, pic below) to a list. This list will include all my collection, digital and physical.
So if I understand you correctly, please confirm this, in that list against each item I would then have a âbuttonâ that would allow the digital items to be played, but obviously not the physical ones, and these items would not have the âcollected Green Iconâ as marked?
But how would you know which are digital and physical?
Or will they all have this âbuttonâ but the physical ones obviously would not play?
What then would be the purpose of the Green Icon?
Would it be to indicate those items that are digital?
If so, and again how would you know which of my items are digital and not physical?
If you donât want to sync ratings and watched items, just unmark them. There are two columns, one for the Webhook and the other one is for Plex Sync.
