Well the issue of being able to press play to determine whether it is in the Library is somewhat strange then. Like I mentioned, for those of us using a TV to watch that basically negates you considering a digital file as being in our library. Thatâs a limitation because for example Roku doesnât allow cross app linking.
One thing that Iâve noticed as I am going through my list of collected items in my library is that Trakt appears to be classifying digital items as BluRay after syncing from Plex. Iâm not sure whether this is because itâs picking up the source from the filenames used or what. But surely anything synced from Plex should automatically be considered digital, no? Even if it isnât necessarily playable because of App permissions. It also seems to me that much of the reliance of being âplayableâ from some site is based on Justwatch finding where (if anywhere) something is currently able to be streamed. That negates anything we might have purchased digitally or own through a service already.
The Privacy concern I mentioned I expanded on in a second response. Your move going forward seems to require permission for Trakt to access streaming accounts we have. Thatâs a lot of faith tbh for users to put into Trakt. Especially with accounts like Amazon that could be used to purchase items, or Apple that could compromise devices.
Maybe a clearer explanation of what the end goal is and how Trakt envisions this working would be better.
Because right now some things just donât seem very well thought out.
ETA. After downloading the CSV files for my Library, I can now definitely see that anything imported from Plex that had the source of the file set as a BluRay in the filename (e.g. move.title.year.BluRay.resolution.audio codec.video codec) is currently being tagged as Media type=1 in the watch list instead of media type=0). Unfortunately from what I can see thereâs no way of uploading an edited version of the Library to accurately fix the items to be correctly displayed. Am I honestly expected to manually one by one edit >1000 items?
I generally donât use the library because I donât particularly want Trakt to know what I own (which spans across both physical and digital - my family has a massive physical collection that I would expect to be in my library if I used the feature), but as a long-time user of the site, I feel compelled to ask why this is being prioritised when there are so many other things in-flight that are not finished yet?
Question: what about digital items I own that are not able to be automatically synced to trakt?
I currently use the collection/library for purely digital content that I own. I do sometimes use Plex, but not always.
Second question: I like to manually mark things as watched. I donât want Plex to sync my watches to Trakt automatically. I wonât mind too much (though it is still a bit annoying) if I can sync my library from Plex but keep scrobbling disabled. Is this possible?
UPDATE: after some investigation it looks like the Plex sync forces me to also sync watches as well as library. Iâm also not entirely sure, but it looks like I might have to pay for Plex Pass in order to sync my library to Trakt? Is this accurate? I have no intention of paying for Plex Pass and I do not want my Plex plays to sync with Trakt automatically, so this doesnât look like itâs going to work for me at all.
he means thereâs no eta for the library change. theyâre announcing the plans with no official date, only that in february they will have the tool available that he mentioned.
Weâd like the Library to be actionable.
Lists can be used for manual curation/archiving/logging.
The Library has never been (that I recall) a paid feature. It is now limited to 100 items but itâs not a VIP feature.
Now, again, we are not removing functionality, we are making them evolve. Ultimately, we want to make them better for free and VIP users.
If privacy is a concern, moving your Library to a List that can be set to private is a good option.
That is what we are doing now.
If you can press a Play button from Trakt to start watching something somewhere, it belongs in your Library.
The dream is to simply browse Trakt to find the best content to watch, then trigger playback on your preferred Media Center player.
We have a goal, we communicate our plan early but we also listen to your feedback and move along those lines to get to the dream. The room we let ourselves to adapt is seen as a weakness (ânot well thought out planâ) when in fact it is a strength.
No, we want to avoid that. Maybe this specific feedback (Plex Sync not tagging the media correctly) would be better addressed in the Trakt Plex Sync thread. Justin is currently OoO but heâll be able to take a look when he is back.
Itâs been answered above but it boils down to the fact that it makes more sense to work on the future plan for the Library than to just copy the existing one that doesnât fit the long term vision. Users have been asking for the plan for the Library, this is it.
We juggle with a lot of priorities and this one needed clarification. I hope it makes sense now. If you have other more pressing concerns, please let us know (in another thread).
You currently add them manually to your Library. Youâll add them manually to a List.
And thatâs okay.
You can enable/disable a lot of things with the Plex Sync settings. Iâm not 100% sure as Iâm not a Plex user myself but Iâm pretty sure you can disable scrobbling and enable library sync only.
About Plex Pass:
Plex Pass is not required like it is for the Plex Webhook.
Just make sure you are using this: Plex Sync â¨
I know thereâs some confusion about the different Plex Sync options.
I donât have a strong answer for this yet. We are thinking about giving those transferred lists as free additional lists or just give anyone 1 more free list, it all depends a bit how we build the transfer tool but itâs a legit concern that we take seriously into account.
Currently, the Library items can be tagged with additional metadata. I was talking about that.
Iâll update my announcement to focus less on the physical VS digital aspect. The focus should be on the manual VS automatic curation and the actionability instead. Sorry about that.
Can you clarify this? If you currently have a mix of digital and physical items in your Library that you encoded, you will have the same mix with a List and will continue to curate it manually. The thing that will change is the button and the metadata/filters (as I said above we are aware of those and will improve at the list level, so youâll have the same or even better). Nothing changes in regard to the âmixâ and what you decide to manually encode.
If the library is going to be used for items that can be clicked on to play directly from the app, for people that dont use a media centre, the library will be irrelevant, it serves no purpose
I would be happy to use this if it had the option not to sync watches/ratings from Plex. I notice this Plex Sync feature is still in beta. Is it possible this option could be added? Is there somewhere I could officially request this?
If you donât want to sync ratings and watched items, just unmark them. There are two columns, one for the Webhook and the other one is for Plex Sync.
Is the plan to wall garden off the addition to the new Library so that you can only import to it using Traktâs Plex Sync for Plex and other potential integrations for other services?
Or will it still be possible through a public API?
Iâm only interested in the latter, since reading through the thread on Plex Sync it looks an incredibly frustrating experience when something goes wrong - I do understand that in general if something is working for a user theyâre not going to comment in a feedback thread so my perception from the outside looking in could be skewed. At least if Iâm in control client side, I can see/investigate 4xx errors on my end
Yes, but also, I mean the metadata you can add to a media in your Library. Thatâs why Iâm saying encoded, itâs more than just added. Some user took the time to add but also âtagâ additional metadata.
Correct. All but the ones you would have had via a sync (Plex Sync for the moment).
In the new Library, this is the goal, yes. Youâd easily see that that media is âplayableâ. The other ones in your Lists would just live in that list. How that list âmembershipâ is translated in the UI is still to be defined and can change but the goal is to know, at a glance, that a media is in a List and if itâs available to play is a new information youâd have.
We donât really care in fact. Itâs less about digital/physical and more about manual/automatic and playable/unplayable.
It will probably evolve to something else.
That are playable, yes.
The endgame is to have as many integration as possible so you wonât have to curate the item yourself in your Library. They will be playable because they are in your Library. By nature, all items in this new Library will be digital but if you want to collect other digital media that you donât have an integration for, youâll add that in a List to get to them later.
I hope this clarifies things. I donât mind explaining it again or differently if needed, itâs difficult because itâs currently not implemented, weâre still ironing out the details.
I use the Library list (formerly the Collection) in a different way, and I still use it to log the movies I watched in the cinema, along with the dates and times I watched them.
