You might want to read more of this thread to see why some VIP users are upset about these new limitations.
I’ve read the entire thread. Been following it since day one.
Trakt loses the free users who maintain lists that other VIP users value. This increases the possibility that those VIP users may move to another service. Trakt also loses the free users who recommend Trakt to people who might become VIP subscribers. As this continues, will Trakt double the VIP price again? Will they remove the grandfathered $15/year and $30/year subscribers? Will they be willing to pay $60/year?
I suspect that the vast majority of us paying users maintain our own lists and don’t rely on those of others. Or are more than capable of figuring out how to mirror the list to their paid account here.
The success of Freemium models is based not just on the conversion of free users but also on the participation of free users. If 5% of free users become paying subscribers and the number of free users drops by 50%, do you think the number of paying subscribers doubles? No.
The fact that the vast majority of folks complaining or failing to figure out how to circumvent some of the restrictions have never paid despite being users for years indicates that the chances of any of those long time users ever becoming paying customers is near zero anyways.
Sure do. What’s your point? FYI, I have about 150 on my watchlist
Maybe try to figure out who I was addressing that question to seeing as I wasn’t replying to you. But the question was posed because some folks seem to be using the Watch List in a fashion that isn’t very efficient especially with the new limits.
Cool. So, you’re happy that these users are being punished by not being notified that this price increase was coming. Now, they’re leaving Trakt instead of subscribing at $60. I think that’s the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face .
No I’m not happy but merely pointing out that people had the option to buy in. It’s no different than always watching a stock price and never buying in, then years later thinking how unfair it is you didn’t buy Berkshire-Hathaway at <$10,000. Or in software terms, no different than regretting not buying Roon when that was relatively cheap for a lifetime license. BTW when was the last time ANY service announced months in advance that they were going to increase their fees? Did Netflix inform you the second increase in under a year was coming and offer you the opportunity to extend your contract with them at the current price?
I’d also suspect the vast majority of VIP users became paying users not because they feared the cost would increase, but rather because we were adult enough to understand that developing and maintaining Trakt costs money, that we found it useful, and that we wanted it to be developed further. The number of recent extensions to the App and website endorse this as a solid reason considering how many new tweaks have been added (for free and paying users).
Obviously your mileage varies on this viewpoint and people (ab)using the free element of Trakt are now vehemently complaining because their gravy train hasn’t even ended, but is just slightly limited as to how much they can serve themselves for free.
Maybe it should be a lesson for the future, if you appreciate someone devoting time to something and use their free service, throw them a bone once in a while.
ETA. If you read Justin’s details, you’ll see that the percentage of folks that are affected by the relatively minor changes is pretty small. Instead of thinking that’s a reason that it should be overlooked, instead view it in a similar fashion as to how a relatively small percentage of people abused Google Drive’s unlimited storage ability resulting in a change that impacted everyone negatively. In other words we can’t have nice things because a vocal minority didn’t do the right thing.
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