FWIW, mostly as a counterpoint to the dominant narrative here.
I’ve been a VIP user for many years. I use Trakt daily, but I don’t care about collections and lists at all. I also don’t subscribe to other users’ lists, so if previously free-tier users stop using Trakt, it doesn’t affect me personally.
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Well, let’s just hope that Trakt can survive on the $30 subscriptions from current VIP’s, because if it can’t and it goes down the pan, it most certainly will affect you, me and everyone else here, VIP or free.
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I don’t understand how the devs don’t realize that
useless free tier → fewer new free users → fewer new paid users
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Simkl is stupid, if you want to turn on any of the privacy options, you gotta be a pro user. And thus the only way a free user can turn on privacy settings is to use the site for 20 days every month to get free pro.
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I think people were grandfathered in to keep their previous limits back then.
That’s not the case now?
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Lolwut is that even legal?
Sorry, my unclear language there. By “viewable” I meant that I can look at what is in my collection for reference etc. (“what was that film? oh, do I already have it” situations for example).
Like discogs
Oh I don’t doubt that in the stream vs collection, collection is a LOT lower. But only 3% download anything? That’s nuts to me.
There will be plenty of folk who collect physical media, but yes, hardly a blip on the Trakt community I’d guess.
And $25 a month forever with nothing to keep/ no guarantee of access (shows being removed etc.) will always be a wild concept to me.
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Nope. These limits apply to everyone (free tier). No grandfathered limits.
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I don’t understand that argument. Currently free-tier users don’t bring in any money. So nothing will change when they stop using Trakt.
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Exactly, and they are less likely to subscribe at $60. So no extra money for Trakt and they have to manage with the money they get already., and it may not be enough.
Personally, I would pay $30 today if the price dropped, as I’m sure some others would too. But at $60, it’s more likely free users would walk rather than stay and contribute (at $60).
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This doesn’t affect me at all. I’ve been VIP 9 years and I’ll continue to support this awesome site going forward. My Mom has been VIP for years. My sister has been using Trakt for years but she wasn’t VIP. She became VIP in November 2024. She’s more than happy to pay $60. It’s worth it. We all use Trakt daily.
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Okay, well you are the only one who thinks $60/y is worth it. The rest of us (including me) clearly see this as a rip off.
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New people will join Trakt. This won’t be an issue for them because this will be just how it is. This is a short term issue. Trakt is looking at the long game.
I’m sure you would. However, people have had years to become VIP and they didn’t. I realize that statement doesn’t apply to newer users. However, I’ve seen many people complaining that I know have been using Trakt for years and they never became VIP. But they whined when the price changed and they said they’d have paid if it was $30.
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Yes, but things have changed now the free limits have been decimated.
If I had known what was coming……
Probably by the time I think $60 is a good deal, Justin will have raised the price to $120 and cut the free usage to one list with 5 items in it. 
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I don’t agree with this people need time to upgrade to a VIP plan. I also didn’t had a VIP membership for the first and maybe second year that i was a member. But i saw that i use Trakt a lot and $30/y was okay price. But if i was new member and saw the new price i definitely wouldn’t pay that.
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Nobody was aware because they only announced it months ago in 1 forum post. Not even on Reddit, Homepage or E-mail. And i only knew about it because somebody else post it on Reddit.
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What do you think the long term game is? Lose more users, keep more complains, no grows in vip users and maybe even lose current vip users?
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See this is where the disconnect is for me. Let me start with saying that what I’m about to say isn’t a judgement on you personally. I’ll also add that I’m not talking about people can’t afford Trakt. I didn’t grow up with money. I was raised by a single mom who robbed Peter to pay Paul every month. I still have poor kid mentality.
With that said I pay for the things I value. I used Trakt for a year prior to becoming VIP. Now one could argue I waited too long. That’s valid. But I wanted to become VIP on my “Trakt-iversry” so that’s why I waited. I don’t get using something for years that you know you like/love and don’t pay for it when you* have the opportunity. This mindset likely comes from me having a creative job. People love my work, but want it for free or they want to lowball me.
*I mean “you” generally. Not you specifically.
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I get that. I ‘ve only been around since last July. Decided in September that it was worth getting VIP. So as it was quite close to Black Friday, I decided to hold off on a good deal not knowing that the price was to raise immanently to $60 because Justin did not exactly advertise this, apart from in one forum I missed.
So we are where we are…
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Separate movies and TV shows into individual watchlists, and count the shows as a single item, not individual episodes (which is ridiculous in it’s self when there are countless shows out there with a 100+ episode count).
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