Notes for list items

A while ago I stumbled across this comment by @justin on the old VIP forums (from almost exactly a year ago, apparently—heh), here’s a relevant excerpt:

  • List item notes. Attach notes to your list items. This will be cool to explain things or give more details on why items are on your lists.

As I haven’t have heard anything about that particular feature since then (at least not on the new forums)*, my question is: it this feature still being worked on? It certainly would be pretty cool if it were possible (at some point—no rush, take your time) to add notes to list items.


*: I did find this suggestion over on UserVoice, but that has seen no interaction yet. (I upvoted it anyway.)

Yes, we actually have the ground work for this behind the scenes. We’re planning some updates around lists in the near future and thanks for the reminder about this. The main thing is I need to figure out a good UI to do this. For example, it might get annoying to ask for a note every time when adding an item to a list. So maybe it’s added to the list edit interface? Let me know if you have any ideas or examples on what other apps do.

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I don’t really have any ideas for the UI/UX side of this feature at the moment, but I do agree that being asked to add a note every time would be annoying; adding a button to the edit/move list items interface could indeed be a way to implement it

What about an icon kinda like the magic wand icon on collections?
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Or were you thinking the field/icon would be on the list page?

Slight goof on my end, I was indeed thinking of the actual list page (and its move/remove items interface). Your idea could work for items which are only on one list, but it would become a bit tricky if an item were on multiple lists (say, a watchlist and a chronological viewing order list) and needed a different note on each list (for example, on the former, explaining what prompted someone to add the item to their wishlist, and on the latter explaining why the item was seemingly placed out of order).

After understanding your reasoning for multiple notes, I took some time looking at the list page. Clicking the manage button doesn’t really make sense to me as how would you know you have a note from just the list view and it adds an extra step, which would be a pain if you were at the bottom of your list and decided you wanted to add a note, so you’d have to scroll all the way up and then back down.

That made me look at the current layout and there’s no space in the toolbar for it. I don’t think it can really go over the poster in any fashion as clicking the poster already has an understood function to link to the show’s page throughout the site.

So I think I get to Justin’s point about where could it go.

Maybe it does have to go on the show page and you just include the reasons for both in the same field?

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Noted and agreed; adding a fifth button to every list item could clutter that interface too much. Being able to have notes per list would still be handy, though… (Also if an item is added to both a private and a public list and needs a seperate note on both.)

Is it an idea to put the button in the “Listed on” pop-up (your screenshot) next to lists an item has been added to (to the left of the arrow, for example)? A crude mockup with emoji’s:

⚫ [insert list here] > turns to
🔵 [insert list here] 🔤 > (emoji is just a placeholder) after an item is added to that list

(Discourse broke my non-breaking spaces… Just imagine the arrows are ligned up in the above examples.)

I was about to start a new thread for a this Feature request, before I searched and found this. Strongly second this request, I think it is supremely helpful to have a notes field to leave personal notes about the respective Show/Movie…

As for the UX, I think that if it makes it complicated to have different notes for different lists, you could simply incorporate one extra field as “Personal Notes” for each show, and the same note shows up on any list the item is in. As long as it is a private field and has a large enough text box, the user could leave notes for themselves in a way they understand themselves.

I would like to add notes for each of my Anime shows about viewing orders, or which seasons I have on DVD and which are on Netflix etc, and right now I’m forced to do that manually elsewhere in my notes while I manage my entire wishlist and watching history on Trakt and would like to keep it that way…

Do you have a timeline for this feature?

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+1 For sure! A couple of the trakt.tv phone clients have added this functionality on their won, but that locks you into using that client forever.

From a GUI design perspective, what about a flag that would indicate a comment as private? When I first tried to add a note (not knowing it wasn’t a supported feature) I tried to do so using the comment button. Most of the rest of the GUI would remain unchanged, and it would probably make any required redesign of third party clients minimal.

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Sean and I were actually just talking about the notes idea the other day. We actually have this setup behind the scenes already. Recommendations through the Trakt iPhone app already ask for notes when you recommend something. In the near future, the website will also ask for notes when you recommend something.

I’m still figuring it out, but I think we’re going to create a row based view of the list page so you can edit/add notes to each item that way. I don’t have a good way of adding notes when you add the item to a list initially, so we’ll likely start with the list edit interface first.

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I would really like to see this feature! Sometimes I’m not ready to post a comment as public, I would like to leave a “personal note” for the future, like a small diary entry about just watched. I think the best possible way to do this is to just allow a comment to be private (and pinned to the top). That way when we come back to the Movie/Show we watched, we could see our notes.

Pinterest has something like this with its picture pins, they call it “Note to self”:

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This is still a work in progress, but wanted to share a video for adding notes to list items. Open to feedback or ideas on this.

I’m still not sure about adding notes when you add to lists, still thinking about that part. The ideas above are interesting by adding icons next to the name.

I don’t think we’ll attach notes to the show/movie itself. That’s an interesting idea, but different than attaching to list items directly.

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I like it, there is one thing though that I noticed about the manage tool in general. That is if you have a large list it is a little unwieldy to scroll all the way to the top to choose manage as you may loose your place in the list. Perhaps a keyboard shortcut would help?

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Yes please this looks great! Maybe instead of ‘‘Read Note’’ it could literally show the note itself. Also I don’t know if this is meant to be public or not but both options (public or private) would be great. Maybe you could check and uncheck ‘‘make notes public’’ it in the edit list (green pencil icon)

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I’ll give it a try and see if inlines notes can work. I’d likely only show a few lines, and you need to hover to see the rest. That’s actually why I went with a tooltip in the first place so it isn’t contained by the poster size.

I’m not sure we can support private/public notes, my original thought was the list being public, private, or for friends was enough?

Yeah, I could add one. Any suggestions? I usually look at gmail or other major services to find a common shortcut that people are used to.

EDIT: I think a simple “m” shortcut might work ok.

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Sounds great! Yes you can totally just put the whole list private/public/friends. Only reason I was asking is if you want to put private notes on a public list but really not necessary.

Agreed. :grin: