Can I get confirmation that it is something you WILL work towards? My physical media means a lot to me, so I want to know if Trakt is something I can depend on in the near future or if I should move over to a different service.
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The value of the Collection feature wasnât just about migrating a physical or digital library into a list; it was about the seamless integration within the UI. Previously, on every movie page, list entry, or search result, we had immediate visual confirmation via icons if a title was in our Watchlist or Collection.
Being able to toggle these statuses with a single click directly from those views was a core part of the workflow. Losing this visibility and ease of use is a significant blow to the user experience. Furthermore, Collection metadata served as vital filters for searching and sortingâfunctionality that now seems to be gone.
Please donât claim that âNothing is lost.â One of Traktâs biggest differentiators from the competition was exactly this level of library management and this one IS LOST. Lastly, many of us have extensive notes attached to our Collection items; will these notes be preserved and migrated as well?
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Exactly this!
When I see the poster of movies, shows, episodes, I want to see directly in a blink if itâs in my collection. Exactly like itâs already is now on V2. I donât want to have to open the lists view. It would defeat the whole purpose of the current Library implementation.
It really doesnât make sense to merge both. Lists are lists and should stay as it is. Same for Libraries. Completely different use cases. Itâs not going to work if this is moved to âlistsâ. Simple as that.
Thousands of users are Jellyfin users with huge physical/digital collections. Keep those users in consideration and stop breaking everything just because âit no longer fits the long-term direction of the Library.â.
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I think you misunderstood the point of my question. I have no intention of adding my streaming services content to my library. I am just trying to understand what content the library is intended to hold based on the Trakt teamâs roadmap for V3. In prior posts you said that all content currently marked as collected in our V2 library will be moved to a list in V3. From follow-up posts by you and others, that seems to include digital media that is ripped to my media server.
I use Emby as my media server, and when I add content to my Emby library it gets marked as collected in the V2 Trakt library. I cannot play it directly from Trakt. So based on V3 logic for the library that means it belongs in a list and not as a collected item in the library. So again, what digital content will qualify to be marked as collected in the V3 library?
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Youâre speaking in riddles and contradictions, sir.
That said I do agree itâs ridiculous, hence why this whole change is ridiculous.
The Digital Media Library can be a list.
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I canât say I really understand whatâs changing, given all the confusing back and forth, and I certainly donât understand why itâs changing.
But I want to submit my use case for consideration, because itâs absolutely something I rely on Trakt v2 for and it would be really difficult if this got changed:
I frequently pull up my watchlist, filter by ânot in Library,â and use that as a jumping off point to determine which movies/shows I need to acquire in order to watch them in the future.
If Library maintenance is moved to a List, it doesnât seem like Iâll be able to filter in this way. In other words, I wonât be able to cross-reference Watchlist with Library list. This would be bad, and is a real step back from the usability of the platform. Please reconsider.
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No, that would be terrible. The link to your playable Digital Media Library has to remain distinct from lists, as it allows different behaviour. On a media player device (e.g. an Apple TV) the distinction is that it can selected for playing directly from the Trakt App on the device, exactly as if you were linking to a streaming service.
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Iâm sorry, but this doesnât really make a case for why you are taking away yet another feature, which is what this looks like. And once again, you originally said nothing will change and collections are meant to include physical media, and then walk back that promise. This is what pisses people off and loses you even more goodwill amidst all the nonsense with forcing people onto v3 before itâs remotely usable or finished. If you have good reasons for doing this, please find a way to communicate them.
As others have pointed out, there is no obvious reason to pretend things the Blu-Rays you have on your shelf and CAN PLAY AT ANY TIME are somehow not part of a playable library. The Watch Now feature basically already allows users to do what you describe as the âdreamâ scenario. You browse Trakt, you find content, you see itâs on a streamer you have and you just watch it there. It works, itâs clear, thereâs no reason to do the same again in another place as well while throwing an existing feature under the bus.
You say nothing is lost, but plenty is lost. The key great things about the collection/library as we use it now are:
- It is not just one of your lists, it is a distinguished feature. When you see a movie listed in a search result, credit list or anywhere else, you can immediately see if you have it collected, and in what format. It being its own feature also allows for better integrations and filtering based on what you have collected and what you donât. If it were just a list, none of this would be possible - you would have to search for that specific list among your other lists and then search through that. It would no longer be right at your fingertips.
- It treats shows as a whole: If you only have two seasons of a four-season show collected, it will tell you wherever the show as a whole is listed, even before going to the detail page or god forbid having to navigate through all seasons to get an overview. Again, a list canât do that.
- You can specify the format in a standardized way. Again, it being its own thought-out thing instead of just a randomly formatted text note allows for better integration with other features like filtering your collection by format or the nice little hover layer in the collection neatly showing the video and audio format.
All of this looks to be going away or severely reduced, and a list doesnât seem like a better place at all. In its current form, it feels like people have put thought into this feature. It becoming a standard list with just text notes feels like a makeshift placeholder for a real solution quickly cobbled together⌠but the solution already exists right now and it works fine, so why mess with it?
If you want to enable new integration and playback flows - cool, great, add it as a feature for those who have use for it, but donât sacrifice another one for it. Add tabs to the library for physical and digital. Add playable digital libraries as a standalone feature for VIPs.
Also, since we still have these ridiculously low list limits for standard users, how is that going to work? Will standard users have to fit their pre-limit collections into the new list limits, i.e. probably having to lose stuff?
Streamlining things is fine as long as it doesnât lose relevant functionality for users. Why isnât your history a list? Because logging what you watched is a separate and unique use case from just throwing movies into a list. You use it differently, so it needs to be presented in its own separate way, and it needs to include additional data to enable different features specific to what it represents. Just like I wouldnât want you to make the history into a list with dates converted to text notes, I donât want it to happen to the collection.
Please show a willingness to listen to your users and reconsider.
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Well, yes but actually no, I think. I see two issues based on the two types of list limits:
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There is a limit for standard users on the number of lists you have. So the collection replacement list better not count against that limit. And even if it doesnât for users whose collection is migrated, newer users without the migration process will not be able to get that additional collection replacement list beyond their list limit.
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Just like list limits, collection size limits were only introduced last year. Even if they never were a VIP user, users may have thousands of items in their collection from before that (since each episode of a collected show counts as one item, thatâs not as much as it sounds), and even though since the limits were introduced they have been unable to add anything new to it (which goes into just how ridiculous these limits are in concept - now standard users were stuck with incomplete collections and lists they could no longer update - but plenty has been said about that already), those are still many more items than would fit into any list with the current list size limits. So are we going to ignore the list size limits as well for the replacement list? Because if not, you are absolutely guaranteed to lose stuff.
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Thatâs not true though.
Only a movie and a series is one item. Seasons and episodes are all counted together towards the 100-limit.
At least, thatâs what always been said 
thatâs correct but some people either manually add individual episodes to their library/collection or their plex sync or other media center syncing adds episodes individually which would count that way unfortunately
Thatâs news to me - interesting. I was assuming the item count as shown in the unfiltered library, which is definitely counting each episode, is what counts against the limits. So far I havenât been aware of a way to add shows or seasons as such without having effectively each episode added in the background.
Not that this would entirely circumvent the issues mentioned, but it would at least mitigate them somewhat for part of the user base.
My Library currently contains 19,693 items. Once this becomes a list Iâm limited if I am reading this accurately. And thatâs purely items synced from Plex. It truly doesnât take much to get there if one has collected some long running TV series with each episode counting as an item.
And thatâs what I said doesnât matter.
Trakt staff has stated before that no matter what you add: season or episodes or shows, if itâs the same parent entry (show), it counts as one item toward the max.
But we all know reality doesnt always match what Trakt staff says.
Kevin posted this today in response to a question about media in the library:
Iâve highlighted âmedia you own like DVD, Blu-ray, etc.â This is the complete opposite of what he has posted in this thread with respect to where V3 is heading with the library. Very frustrating.
This is the post I cut this comment from:
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if you add the show to your library then yes its one entry but if you add individual episodes then each episode is an entry, thats how Justin is trying to explain it there. For those that scrobble, like CajunRob, its counting each item individually
Whatever lol 
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Sounds like he doesnât know you can add items as collected on an unknown date (let me use the collection word as itâs super clear itâs not added as watched on an unknown date lol)
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I understand the feature and the unknown date. Iâm speaking about adding to collection, not watched. (guess I should have been more clear in the original posts lol)
Never mind. I just wonâtuse the âUnknown Dateâ feature for items I own and are in my personal possession since apparently itâs not working correctly on my account for whatever reason.
Apologies for taking up your time.