@ ImpaktNY48
I would imagine they could only do that once things have been checked and confirmed that shows/movies match, otherwise it could open a whole lot of problems for people if blindly switched over.
I am working through my lists and trying to see if I can update TMDb so they can migrate. Have you tried looking at the problems for those shows you have that refer to TVDb and see if you can update them on TMDb so the are ready to migrate.
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Got bad news for you. They, as in TVDB, don’t care if things match with TMDB for sites that won’t use them. They only care about people using their API and have said for the past 2 years that projects not using the new API will be completely cut off.
I haven’t heard any updates related to TVDB shutting down their v3 API. I’m not sure if or when that is planned.
Internally we have a lot more tools to merge and move things around. We also have a dedicated support person handling data reports and TMDB migrations.
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Any plans to allow us to add series directly to Trakt?
If not you can always add them to TMDb.
you add them to TMDB , that is the case. Trakt receives data from the feeder (tmdb)
i don’t think it will ever be a feeder (and i do not want to, different site, different philosophy)
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Yes tmdb is so much easier to contribute to then tvdb.
Only problem i have found is Translations they really want english, if not in english it Will not follow Into trakt
Unfortunately, while it is easier to add data to TMDB than TVDB, there is no guarantee as to how long the data will remain on TMDB. I have noticed and can provide examples of Movies and Series that I or others added to TMDB that were later deleted by a moderator without warning or explanation. The series or movies appear in Trakt as having TMDB as their source, but clicking on the TMDB link shows an “oops” no page. This is frustrating for series that have been migrated to TMDB because they are no longer updated with new episodes from TMDB (since it’s been deleted) or TVDB (since it’s no longer used after migration). Again, I can provide links to 1 series and many movies in Trakt like this.
Yes, please do so as I am curious as to what you are referencing.
I’ve seen these sorts of deletions too, but they’ve almost always been explained by careful reading of the TMDB Bible. RIFFTRAX, for example, is a valid deletion because it’s against the Bible. Same with short-film collections like ALTER and DUST. And how TMDB defines a “series” is different than TVDB too - THE LAST DRIVE-IN on TVDB is a single show, but in TMDB’s Bible, it’d be classified as multiple shows. Etc., etc.
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It seems like web series often fall into the gray area where it’s unclear if they are allowed on TMDB. Stuff like Defunctland seems to be allowed, but it’s not super clear where the line is for YouTube series.
I’ve read the comments below about the TMDB Bible and I understand that some things are explained and well thought out, others are philosophical. I only point out that stuff gets added, sucked into Trakt, and then removed from TMDB. Some of it’s been migrated so it will never be updated. I’m not saying they are wrong, but here is a dead migrated TMDB link to a show that doesn’t exist:
The Daily Bugle - Trakt
Page Not Found — The Movie Database (TMDB) (themoviedb.org)
Here’s a dead movie that is really a show:
The Power of Nightmares (2004) - Trakt
Page Not Found — The Movie Database (TMDB) (themoviedb.org)
And here’s another of the countless examples:
Heimat: A Chronicle of Germany (1984) - Trakt
Page Not Found — The Movie Database (TMDB) (themoviedb.org)
I come across them all the time. I love Trakt. I just have to be very carefull when I’m working on lists because some movies are really shows and the watch now link won’t typically show you where you can watch a movie that is really a show. So again, I have to be careful when I work on movie lists like TSPDT. Those lists have lots of movies that are dead links and should really be shows.
The ultimate problem is when it is changed/removed from TMDB, it is not removed from Trakt and remains with the TMDB datasource. Hence there is a false sense of security that you can actually refresh data or know that it is being maintained.
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Aye. Same thing happened with RiffTrax. I sent in a support request to have it unlinked from TMDB and reassociated and synced with TVDB until such time that Trakt removes that support. And Trakt did so.
it appears that it is because people add listings incorrectly, or add duplicates. TMDB is usually on top of this and deletes them right away, but not before someone adds them to Trakt. That is how you end up with dead links. This can be fixed on Trakt by clicking report movie/show on the main page of that item and detailing the issue. If they are still on TVDB that is because it takes them years to fix one locked air date.
According to TMDB it is not a TV Show…
That is because it was added as a duplicate and has since been removed on TMDB, I reported the duplicates to Trakt. Here is the correct listing, a quick search turned it up…
Same issue as before, it was added as a duplicate and has since been removed on TMDB and I reported the duplicates to Trakt. Here is the correct listing…
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Thanks, in the future I will report duplicates when I come across them. Just out of curiosity how does removing a dead TMDB film work. Does it update a users watched, rated, or added lists to replace the movie with the series or does it just remove it?
I can imagine seeing something like “So-in-So’s Top 1000 Movies” which after adjustments to remove movies has 980 films instead of 1000 films in the list. It also might cause someone to look at their ratings and say, why did my count drop by 20?
I’m a software engineer, so I know these are difficult problems to address. It’s even made harder when you don’t control the data you consume.
Thanks for your insights,
SW77
Justin said before that all data is merged/moved to the actual good entry.
That can mean that you’ll get double watches/data if you marked both the entries as watched for some reason.
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Saw this update from TVDB posted on the Kodi blog. Looks like they are targeting the end of 2022 to shut down the v3 legacy API.
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Almost one year after the initial date ?
i don’t believe things went as they thought in thetvdb.
Thats because the moderators of tmdb are idiots, they dont listen to facts and reason.
Just do what they want.
If anything it’s because users are idiots 
They add stuff that doesn’t belong.
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