Awesome! I just refreshed Mythic Quest and The Great and both series appeared in the list.
Shows like that will require manual cleanup on our side. We’ll need to move seasons into the standalone show and adjust a few other things behind the scenes.
We’re not automatically moving stuff to TMDB yet, but we can manually move it over via support ticket. The plan is to gather data for a few weeks, then make the decision how to handle automatic switchover to TMDB as the data source.
Added few new things to the comparison page:
There is also a new URL datasource parameter that can be used on any page that supports advanced filters. For example https://trakt.tv/search/shows?datasource=tmdb returns all shows with TMDB as the datasource and https://trakt.tv/search/shows?datasource=-tmdb (note the minus) returns all shows with TVDB.
I noticed that some shows have episodes that are marked green because the episode numbers do match up but the naming/description could be off still due to different ordering. How would be the best way to handle this?
Example: https://trakt.tv/transition/tmdb/updates?trakt_id=4997
I’m not exactly sure, but I think step 1 is to try and figure out if TMDB or TVDB seems to be the correct order. TVDB typically uses the original airing info for the original country and network. I’m not sure TMDB is quite as strict when it comes to that. In cases like these, there will be manual Trakt cleanup and if needed we’ll need to move episodes around.
Justin, is there going to be any change about that now or perhaps make it more easy to delete them ?
Something to keep an eye on: Season 12 has two separate episodes on TVDB with different production codes. but on TMDB they are not willing to make a change because they arguing that the episode were aired as a double header.
That’s definitely an issue!
Indeed. On Family Guy Season 8, Episode 21 we have the same issue. On TMDB they are arguing, that “The main listing has to follow the airing on the original network.” They have “Episode Groups” but i don’t think thats worked with trakt.
If they are only judging by airing on the original network, we will have a lot one these problems, especially for international users.
Another issue is TMDB doesn’t allow season name to be the year. This is a problem because TVDB requires certain shows like news programs to number seasons by the year. How will Trakt handle this?
Is there a specific rule saying you can’t? Because you are able to do it in the season edit page.
Yes.
Do not use years as season numbers (e.g. 2017).
It says the season number can’t be by year. I don’t see anything about the name.
Take Best of the Worst for example. Season numbers are 1-8, but they are named 2013-2020.
And IIRC Trakt can pull season names from TMDB. So not ideal, but workable imo.
Ok thanks! That is probably one of the worst examples out there, was going to suggest having the comparison tool have a warning if the naming is off, could that be implemented?
See here…
Exactly! Take Mythbusters for instance… (you need to be signed in to view this page BTW)
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/1428-mythbusters/edit?active_nav_item=seasons
The season numbering starts at 1 but the seasons are named by year.
Also in case anyone has trouble finding the rules for TMDB, here is the Contribution Bible.
It has search as well.
And if season number isn’t known? Does it just start at one regardless if it’s truly season one?
If it was the first season to air then that is number one in the order but you can also name it by year.
The 16th sequential season of Mythbusters first aired in 2018.
Ok. The shows I’m thinking of have more seasons than even TVDB has so I know the first seasons available aren’t season one.
We actually already auto delete seasons and episodes in certain conditions, such as there are no or very low play counts. This can handle the case where episodes are added, then removed the next day. For episodes with meaningful data, we still like to look at them manually and also in case TVDB/TMDB just adds the episodes back (which happens a lot on TVDB lately).
I noticed that with Big Bang Theory too. Not exactly sure how we’ll handle it, but this could be a case where we just keep the extra episode since the show has already ended.
Episode groups still use the main episode set, just adjusted. Not sure if that applies to Family Guy, but just wanted to point that out. I don’t believe extra episodes can be added to just a specific episode group.
We’d rename the seasons to 1, 2, etc before switching it to TMDB.
This is a good example where we’d rename the seasons to be numbered. TVDB actually did this before, then reverted the change. It created quite a mess on Trakt while it was changing around 
i think i found a bug. On the new show
It has as air day today three episodes, but on tvdb it has only one episode today and the rest with no air day. That means that you actually have one episode today and the rest are with no air date, so they should not be displayed (i hit on data refresh and i’m waiting for them to sync).
The bug is not that is on the tmdb comparison page the season is all matched but you can see on the columns that on the TVDB side has no air dates. That should be red and no match.
An i wrong on this ?
I believe it should be fine, as all the extra data is on TMDB and that is the service that we are moving to.
