Upcoming VIP Renewal Pricing Changes

Likewise, I did cancel the subscription. Any other services that you can import your trakt data to?

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At this point, definitely not. The price increase was one thing. The lack of any sort of communication, transparency, or engagement is something else entirely. They went back on their word with their most loyal users and now are too cowardly to confront them. @justin may have been outvoted, but it’s especially disappointing he’s apparently hiding and hoping this blows over as well. It’s hard to feel valued at this point.

More than that, I feel like the writing is on the wall. They’ve already doubled subscription fees, reduced features for free users to try to persuade them to pay up, and now they’re going back on their word for grandfathering (or trying to redefine the word to not sound as bad). Seems like they’re either lacking for funds or gearing up for some sort of transition.

Either way, I suspect this is the last bad news we get this year as they look for ways to increase cashflow (which I’d anticipate even more features becoming restricted). I’m a little wary of subscribing at this point when I’m not confident the Trakt I knew and love will continue to exist.

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It’s just madness to pay such money for a secondary service that does not provide a direct service, but is engaged in aggregation and information.
Netflix, which creates content, charges $54 per year (my package). Creating content!

Trakt simply collects information, events, user actions and moderates it in the finished product. Your product is the actions and events of users. Too bad. My $30 was even too much, and $60 is just a spit in the eyes of those who paid for these years.
I know for sure that when the subscription ends, I won’t even tell you, goodbye
In the end, there are still similar services, less developed than Trakt, covering basic “needs”, but which will rapidly grow due to the departed audience. After all, in a free account, you are essentially not much different from others, and in a paid account, Trakt has greatly overestimated itself.

Search query, alternative to trakt, is gaining popularity

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No, they won’t remember those who helped! They don’t care about us anymore. They just ignore us. We are absolutely nothing to them anymore.

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My issue now is, Simkl is ~$70 per year for the VIP tier, 10 more than the new Trakt plan, or I go with Lifetime at $149 with no real confidence that this would never go up either, it’s a 2/3 year commitment to keep it even per se.
It’s all relative of course, in my currency that’s not far off $250 for lifetime, it’s a conundrum now, I can stick with Trakt and pay the increase with something I know works or take a chance , same as I did with Trakt and hope it works.

Apple TVos is important to me, so that’s something I’m looking at also, wish this never happened, haha.

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How? You’ll get free Pro (not VIP) after 20 visits in one month.

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As others have said, just login to SIMKL enough times a month and you’ll get free Pro membership. That’s what I’m starting at. Plus, their Plex scrobbling is in the free-tier anyway and not locked behind a pay-wall like trakt. Lots of features that I need are included for free, which is not the case for trakt. Those are already marked improvements imo.

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Sounds like trakt has become overengineered and reliant on 3rd party infrastructure for all these new ideas that they forgot what most people want.

  1. The tracking feature.
  2. Lists for stuff they have and want to watch in a more structured way than just one big watchlist.
  3. Community that helps with discovery.

I would rather they go into maintenance mode and start consolidating and optimising to run on their own hardware. Their vision of what they are doing to justify costing more is muddy at best and when pushed to give an answer they might as well say “Trust me bro” with their promise on big things coming, are these things we want or just more things that are costly to run for the sake of staff portfolios?

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The greedy will soon raise it to $10 :joy:

So, @marius says Trakt wants constructive criticism. Sure. Here’s a quick review of how Trakt evolved over the years for me:

2014:

  • I used ~1mb of internal storage and pulled ~250Mb per month from the API (bandwidth)
  • Lists had no limits, watchlist had no limit
  • API provided images and metadata
  • Paid 0$

2016:

  • I used ~1mb of internal storage and pulled ~20Mb per month from the API (bandwidth)
  • Images were removed, people had to switch to other sources , hence the bandwidth change
  • Paid 0$

2022:

  • I used ~1.5mb of internal storage and pulled ~20Mb per month from the API (bandwidth)
  • I became a VIP subscriber after the “great downtime” thinking “this service is awesome and I should support it”
  • List were limited to 1000 entries, watchlist to 2000 entries for free users
  • Paid 30$

2025:

  • I use ~2mb of internal storage and pull ~20Mb per month from the API (bandwidth)
  • Lists are limited to 10 lists maximum and 100 items maximum. Watchlist is limited to 100 too for free users
  • VIP Pricing goes from 30 to 60$/year

I do not use ANY of the things you provide (scrobble, ical, netflix sync, mobile app, etc.)

Now that’s factual : the service gets more and more shitty for free users, “forcing” you to get subscribed (no longer “I should support” but “if I want to have a watchlist with more than 100 items I need to subscribde”) AND at the same time the price doubles.

That’s enshittification if I’ve seen any : you provide my specific usage with less things over the years, introduce artificial limitations, and propose “new” things I do not care about, and ask for a higher price.

So, I cannot justify 5$/month for a “list app”, just to have the limit for the watchlist go from 100 items to around 250 items (what I actually use)… That’s half the netflix or disney+ price for something that used to be completely free. That’s CRAZY.

How to resolve this? Introduce tiers. Give a better free experience and ask high prices for people that actually want to use some features:

  • FREE: offer 5 or 10 custom lists with 250 items per list, 500 items in watchlist
  • SUPPORT 1$/month: FREE+“supporter” badge
  • ENTHOUSIAST 3$/month: 50 custom lists with 1000 items per list, 2000 items in watchlist
  • CONNECTED 3$/month: FREE+justwatch+scrobble+ical
  • ALL-IN: 5$/month: all of the above
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And let’s not forget WE contribute to Trakt too, providing them our watch information, ratings, reviews, “what’s banging right now” through aggregation, etc. It’s not like we only leech things by using trakt. Heck, in my case I even authored one of the featured lists on the “discover” tab of the website… That’s money you didnt pay someone to make.

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@marius wants constructive criticism? I mean, honestly the price for me isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that when the price went up to $60 last fall, i was two weeks away from renewal. It was directly said i would maintain my $30 price at that time by @justin. I relied on that information to justify my renewal and the literal dozens of hours I’ve spent this spring automating my processes for Trakt - specifically because I thought $30/year was a maintanable price point for what i wanted. And why shouldn’t I? I was just told that I would maintain my pricing by Trakt itself!

Further too that, the renewal page also listed as a benefit the fact that I would maintain my pricing. So i’m not clear on how they can remove a stated benefit (raise my price prior to my renewal). In my mind, I am owed a $30 renewal at least one more time.

Let alone they violated their own T&Cs when they rolled this out, they didn’t think this through at all.

Prices change, costs go up. Netflix and streaming are prime examples. Don’t offer something unsustainable and then misrepresent it to your customers. It nearly ALWAYS comes down to communication and planning when these realities hit a business.

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After serious consideration and after the pathetic response from the trakt team (or whoever you are @marius, I did not see yet an explanation) I made this decision:

  • Activated the 30$ option just to be there because that is a price I would pay, maybe.
  • Buying the 75$ Simkl lifetime VIP. Question for people already on VIP, how is it?
  • Will cancel the moment I pay 30$. There goes 12 years VIP.

If trakt does not get its shit together I hope they go out of business. As I said previously, this is my favorite site and like it way more in terms of UI in contrast to Simkl but I will not accept this cash grab just for some VIP perks nobody asked for. And especially the way @Justin lied (be it a lie or a change in trakt ownership, I couldn’t care less) about grandfathered prices.

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Thank you. I will need to change some of my projects to work with Simkl but at 75$ I think it is worth trying.

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$75 isn’t the lifetime subscription btw

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It is if you have a referral link from someone else for half price.

:eyes:

Would anybody care to share?

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well thats cool

check your DMs

it doesn’t explicitly specify