Seriously. The rebranding was ok for me, was just something cosmetic. But limiting the watchlist for just 100 items??? I have 700 items on my watchlist, 100 items is ridiculous small. What’s next? Limiting the history?
This is really a shame, I loved Trakt. I recommend Trakt for every single Letterboxd user and now my face is just broken. I can’t recommend Trakt for anyone now. I’m really searching for alternatives and I don’t want to do that.
I imported everything to SIMKL it was relatively easy with the import function now I use both until I get used to the new one or some changes happen here.
I watch so many things, animated shows, live action, animated movies and I want to track them all in separate categories. And now with these limits, the only way I can look back on all these things is to go through my watch history where all this is mashed together, making it impossible to have my separate lists for these different mediums.
I didn’t come to this site just to have a watch history, the main appeal has always been that I can put it all in separate categories once I watch them and have an easy, quick access. And its literally how all tracking sites work. Goodreads? You can mark something as read and then put it all in whatever lists you want without restrictions. Myanime list? Everything you watch and read there is put in its own separate categories. Grouvee? Every video game you play goes into your play history AND you can make lists with different genres of games you played. So many sites with this exact functionality.
And this site used to allow me to do the same until now. So I feel the issue is pretty clear and one others have expressed too. Right now this is the only tracking site with this restriction so it should be pretty obvi why I am peeved and why so many others are too. Its a damn tracking site, tracking means to organize your stuff, not keep it all in some jumbled watch history of the hundreds of stuff you’ve watched and be unable to sort anything. Yeah you can sort your watch history by movies, tv shows and episodes but that doesnt account for the fact that I don’t want animated and live action all mashed in together. And thats just me, others have their own systems of sorting these things.
Limiting the number of lists down to 2 and their sizes to 100, i can understand, but the watchlist being limited to 100 i simply can’t understand, Trakt’s core use is to track what tv shows and movies you’re watching, and a core feature of that is being able to create a watchlist. You shouldn’t be limiting a core feature of the app behind a paywall.
Completely agree with you, I actually didn’t like having Live-Action, Western Animation and Anime all mashed up together in the same lists so I took the time to make a separate list for each of them. I honestly thought that being able to organize everything like that is what made Trakt better than all the other similar sites but now I can’t even do all that lol
Yeah, most people treat tracking sites as libraries of what they’ve read, watched, played and libraries are meant to be customized. Ive seen plenty of users here who sorted the stuff they’ve watched by genres cause they wanna go back to those genre list for reccomendations or to do a marathon, like a horror movie marathon. What about ppl who make lists with christimas movies they can watch when the season comes? Ppl have diff watching habits and trakt used to be very good in that aspect, accomidating these habits without issues. Like i recently made list (before these changes took place) where I track the movies I watch along with friends every weekend cause they havent watched many movies and I’m showing them various stuff and I use the site to keep track of it. Thats the kind of user experience one would want from such a site and I’m not sure why any of us are criticized for it.
It isn’t as refined as the usual lists for tracking (like the one here) but you can create custom tags.When you go into your list, whether the manga or anime one, theres the score, type, progress and finally tags bar. There you can put whatever tags you like and sort your stuff like this cause those tags are clickable so if you put the “horror” tag on several of your entries and then click that tag, the entries with that tag will open in their own separate list.
I didn’t like Simkl. So confusing, bad design, a lot of missing features… I’m gonna miss Trakt so much. As I live in Brazil, I didn’t know the VIP price here is different. Maybe I pay some months until I do my own mini Trakt with the features I want lol. I really don’t trust and respect this service anymore.
@justin, I thought it might be useful for you to see how Trakt is used in my particular situation.
I’ve been using Trakt on multiple devices with Kodi since 2012…but I only use the Trakt Collection function and only with TV shows so we (my household) can quickly bring up the Collection list to see if new episodes have screened and are ready to watch. For the last 13 years, it made no sense to me to pay for VIP because I literally use ZERO VIP functions. However, if I’d had to pay for the functionality I need, I would have done so.
In our household, we have multiple family members who add their TV shows to our single Trakt Collection and at the moment, there are 143 shows. Of course, the new 100 item limit means we can’t add any new shows. I’d be happy to pay $$ in order to have a Collection of more than 100 items but I’m curious as to your thinking why I should suddenly be forced to pay US$60 annually (which is AU$100) for all the other VIP features that I will literally never, ever use? I only found out about the new limits yesterday when I was researching online why my family members couldn’t seem to add new shows to our Trakt Collection; there were definitely NO email notifications (I check my Spam folder every day) and because I don’t use Trakt for anything other than the barebones functionality listed above, I never even log into the Trakt website…so I never saw anything about the new limits, let alone the doubling of the VIP price. So this double-whammy with Trakt has been pretty frustrating.
I understand the need to monetize Trakt but the ridiculous overkill here with restrictions and price rises - especially with barebones functionality such as a single Collection list - is nuts. Provide a mid-level tier and I’ll be happy to pay a reasonable fee, but an all-or-almost-nothing approach requiring most free users to suddenly have to pay AU$100 annually just for barebones Trakt functionality is a bewildering decision.
There are already plenty of thoughtful responses in this thread plus it’s already getting excessively long so I just wanted to echo my bewilderment with those changes. this is not a good move. if the watchlist limit had been in place when I joined I would have stopped using the site right away…
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to this day I find the social aspects of trakt to be severely lacking/clunky despite it imho being the one thing that will help the site grow (I’ve given enough suggestions and pointers on where to improve over the years). frankly no one wants to be active in a barren wasteland - I’ve given up mostly myself with posting reviews/thoughts as it is usually not worth the effort for me. we luckily still have some great reviewers on the site but the visible engagement compared to memeboxd is minuscule (I can lookup 90% of movies and find nothing on here, whereas the other site has multiple reviews). but this isn’t what’s getting changed… just passively impacted.
lists offer up far better “targeted” recommendations and discoverability than the on-site feature ever can so hampering their creations to basically only allow it for VIPs is not helping trakt against the competition. if you feel like you need to limit their creation maybe have a look in regards to limiting the amount of public lists - or allow reporting some of them to be flagged as such preventing automated - or vip feature circumventing ones like genre lists - to clutter up the feed (have apps flag theirs as automated?). If anything I want to see more lists - if a user makes the effort to submit content to the site it should be valued and not regarded as “unneeded” data junk. I’ve added a lot of lists in the early days of trakt… and I still get “flooded” with follows bc of that, can’t tell me users are not looking for that (yet their discoverability remains low except for on included items).
as to the watchlist limit… it’s easy to break 100… my backlog is huge, but if I decide to watch something I want to be able to pick from options depending on mood, time, etc. and for that we need space. imagine being born in the year 2025 - try looking up movie recommendations and be hit by a decade of movies to choose from… but trakt forces you to pick a 100 of those…
I’ve also imported my movie and tv Collection into Simkl, but can’t figure out how to integrate it into Kodi where I can find my lists. I also only use the collection feature on Trakt and upgraded at one time on Trakt only to find out that none of the VIP features were useful to me. If Trakt offered a paid option to just remove limits from lists, at a much cheaper price, I wouldn’t have a problem paying for it. However, $60 for a list tracker is obsured, especially for someone that doesn’t use any of its other features.
First time into these forums (didn’t know they existed)… Skimming through comments, it seems like no one is happy with these changes (but who likes change?). Moving some of the features behind the paywall seems like a bad choice. Once users have something for free, it’s bad practice to take it away…
That said, while I get the need to encourage users to pay, there are other/better options to encourage people to WANT to pay rather than removing key features to FORCE users feel obligated to pay. The list change, in particular, makes me glad I never consolidated more lists here. I had to look up why my lists weren’t working correctly, and that’s when I found the change log outlining the overly restrictive change to free lists.
Ultimately, this will just make me use this site less and rely on other services. Until now, the value proposition has been great, but the change (along with the lack of communication about the change to a feature I’ve used regularly) is very disappointing. I hope leadership reconsiders…