I understand why Trakt would want to encourage users to subscribe. Of course, it costs money to run a website, to support a huge database, to develop cross-platform applications, to provide support, etc. However, the freemium model assumes that only maybe 5-10% of the users will subscribe, and the rest will happily continue using the free features and promote the service to their friends, colleagues, neighbors, etc. This means making the free features useful and valuable.
In June 2022, when Trakt imposed limits for the first time, they gave existing users higher limits than new users, and they decided to increase the limits they were initially going to impose. Those limits seemed acceptable then, so why is Trakt increasing them now–without any warning and without special consideration for existing users? Are they envious of the money that third-party apps are making by providing an attractive GUI to the Trakt API? If so, I would point out that this did not turn out well for Unity.
I can only think that this is an attempt to force existing users to subscribe, which I might consider … if there were a lower-priced tier. US$60/year is probably a good deal for all of the features, but I do not use all of the features, so it’s not a good deal for me. A number of services have tiers, such as Free, Standard, Premium (or Pro), and Lifetime. Perhaps Trakt would benefit from such a model.
I think I have to agree here with the majority. Free tier is pretty much useless now, because lists would reach the limit in a month or less. This makes it more like a free trial than an actual usable option. But then again, if it’s a trial, why not to be able to try all the features…? And it’s a full KO for current free users - they literally can no longer use the service if the list is full… Really very poor decision
I would have to agree with the majority. I am a VIP and have been for many years now - Trakt is a godsend to keep track of what you have watched, your history, and reminder of upcoming shows - From what I can tell here, none of that is changing for anyone whether Free or VIP.
For me personally, I’ve got around 80 odd things in my ‘Watchlist’ which I use just to add new films to that I want to watch, and shows I want to watch - once I’ve watched them, I remove them. That was the same when I was ‘Free’, before becoming a VIP - and I don’t really use lists, I’ll search for what I want, but occasionally I’ll see something of interest in another users list or recommendation.
However, I can totally understand where the free users are coming from - Seems like being held to ransom to either reduce list content, or subscribe to VIP (which does seem like a money making route than in any way improving a Customer Experience).
This list reduction for Free users, will also impact any VIP user that does subscribe to others lists for whatever reason, and that will be a lost “feature” that VIPs (and free) currently benefit from.
I hope Trakt continue to listen to it’s users - that includes the entire user base, whether they are free users, or VIP. Obviously, VIP has to have it’s benefits and premium features (which is does, and does well), in order to entice users to want to subscribe - but there’s a right way and a wrong way to go about that.
Just for clarity, what counts as a watchlist item? Is it the current count of your watchlist or does it include everything you are watching? I mean, once you start watching a show it drops off the watchlist, but it still shows up as an item to watch for years to come. Which figure counts as a watchlist item?
The single big premium cost is a bit outdated IMHO. Why not do it with 3 tiers Free, Plus, VIP. Gradually priced. That’s how most services out there do it and it works.
Plus could be Free + increasing lists limits + something
VIP could be Plus + everything else
This makes the platform much more approachable. Currently even though VIP consists of tons of features I can hardly see it aligning with a typical user who probably needs 1 or 3 of these and it’s hard for him to justify 60$ just for a small percentage of features he would actually use.
But if he had a choice to pay 19.99 just for an essential subset then hey, the user is saved with a chance to upgrade to VIP later if he loves the experience.
Another free user, who’s now forced into looking for an alternative…
I’ve been with Trakt from the beginning, but this just seems like a slap to the face for all free users. The service definitely isn’t worth 60 dollars a year.
I too expect some form of data export, as a requirement under GDPR rules, and will be reporting this breach if it is not made available.
Currently Trakt shows I have 180 items on my watchlist I’m pretty sure it was similar when I was on a free plan years ago. It’s just that I never got to watch these items. I hope some day though…
limiting the lists i can create and the items i can have in that list is fine but watchlist being limited to 100 is kinda awful and i might just end up switching to another service because of it
Personally it’s more the opposite for me, limiting custom lists impacts everyone including VIP users, limiting watchlist just impacts me. However it’s all wrong
Collection will be limited to 100 entries. But maybe instead of adding episode by episode you can do it season by season or show by show. If you collected it all.
(Illegal downloads or (il)legal streaming I don’t consider collected )
I purchase digital and store locally. It then marks things as watched and tracks my collection. I have more than 100 films. Does this mean It won’t add them anymore?
As a VIP member I find the idea of limiting lists for free users at least strange. Limiting them in such an extreme manner while attempting to market these changes as a general improvement is just ridiculous.
No idea who thought this would be a good idea. But a friendly reminder: For us already paying VIPs the size of the community is a factor of very relevant value.
If you alienate too many people it’s only a matter of time till the rest will migrate too.
I have more than two personal lists. That’s currently not a problem because I’m trying VIP for a year, but the two VIP features that I want to use (automatic backups, specific RSS feeds) are both broken and support is not very supportive/talkative, so I’m not sure yet whether I want to continue VIP next year.
Really very poor decision
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