A good example is with the TV show “Wet Hot American Summer”. When it used TVDB as the source, they had a special that was actually the feature-length film. Before migrating the show to use TMDB, I first merged that special into the film entry.
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But did you only add a play if they didn’t have it in their history or was it a straight transfer (=additional play)?
I also assume this is a one time thing? So people using the TVDB scrapper will add a play back form the movie to the episode which took that slot AND also get an additional play back from that one as well…?
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Looks like the refresh cleared at least 800 shows from the “missing tmdb id” section but just looking at the first page general page or entries from the “my” tab it’s always the same stuff.
fan content not allowed on TMDB:
Abridge on Titan - Trakt .
Dragon Ball Absalon - Trakt
https://trakt.tv/shows/yu-gi-oh-the-abridged-series
Sword Art Online Abridged - Trakt
are you going to delete them?
TV films/pseudo series:
https://trakt.tv/shows/the-librarian .
https://trakt.tv/shows/the-suspicions-of-mr-whicher
Jesse Stone - Trakt
https://trakt.tv/shows/anime-mirai
are you going to merge each individually before deletion?
collection entries/multi series entries (according to TMDB anyways):
https://trakt.tv/shows/zoids (Zoids — The Movie Database (TMDB))
Miss Marple - Trakt
merge them out before cutting it down to a single season? (franchising in general is 50:50 on TMDB)
general collection shows:
Dave Chappelle - Trakt .
Peanuts - Trakt
https://trakt.tv/shows/derren-brown-the-specials
BBC Documentaries - Trakt
Channel 4 (UK) Documentaries - Trakt
Animal Planet Documentaries - Trakt
PBS Specials - Trakt
WDR Documentaries - Trakt
delete? or weeks of merging (for which 80% is missing anyways on TMDB)?
other:
https://trakt.tv/shows/hulk-vs = borderline valid on TVDB maybe, thrice on TMDB in the movie section - merge and block?
The Daily Show: Global Edition - Trakt = recut/compilation content not allowed on TMDB - delete?
https://trakt.tv/shows/da-ali-g-show-us = S2 & S3 of Da Ali G Show - Trakt - reported weeks ago on TVDB. nothing done with the ticket (got other dups pending as well…). shortcut = fix on trakt?
Rabbits - Trakt = TMDB doesn’t consider this a series and has it as a movie - merge & block?
https://trakt.tv/shows/mobile-suit-gundam-seed-destiny for some reason not a sequel on TVDB but a second season to SEED on TMDB. merge into S2 of SEED and block or hope TVDB decides to change their mind?
The Green Hornet - Trakt = considered movie serials on TMDB
Batman - Trakt = considered movie serials on TMDB
we need a way to weed these out… have not really heard/seen solutions in regards to blocking “fixed” content?
also minor note: the trakt middle row on comparison always ignores the time zones for networks which always distracts when trying to spot the difference… can this please be fixed:
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It will move over all plays and data, we don’t check each individual play since we still can’t know 100% it would be a duplicate for that user. I figure it’s better to keep the data.
The entries will stay, just won’t get any updates. If the show is ended, this shouldn’t be a huge deal. If a TMDB series is eventually added, we can merge them.
These episodes should be merged into the movie entries.
Yes, we can merge episodes into a separate show entry.
These episode should be merged into the movie entries.
There isn’t really a need to block the content. Once it’s merged to other shows or movies, the TVDB entry can’t be imported again.
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Dont know how other countries want to do it
But, for the general collection shows mentioned above
BBC Documentaries & Channel 4 Documentaries are not movies, so please do not set them as such
These are TV episodes
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I get that is the simplest way for you but imho a lot more could have been done to alert people to the issue. After finally having a decent way to get rid of the plethora of dead and duplicate content we get stale data with dups instead :/. 80k shows is a lot (15k of those “airing”) and if TMDB is the new “go to source” things like Batman - Trakt should not be kept imho which is why I’d want to block some “never fixables”.
I use those TVDB entries myself to sort them in but let’s be honest… they’re are not “episodes” to a “series” but mere loose collections based on the network (hence “general”).
To make matters worse people often add them to multiple “shows” (eg. into the BBC Docs and the “Horizon” entry) and they are not necessarily “complete” and set to a proper listing order at any point (some people even add rebroadcasts in a different year).
Some documentaries are also produced by external companies and get broadcast on various networks with different names in the US or UK or completly different languages making them their own entities anyways.
At the end of the month the entries on trakt will go stale so if you want new stuff you’ll have to add them as movies on TMDB or find the appropriate series (of which most are still untouched and not set to TMDB)… eg.
All TV Shows - TMDB Transition - Trakt .
https://trakt.tv/transition/tmdb/shows?trakt_id=6107
All TV Shows - TMDB Transition - Trakt
https://trakt.tv/transition/tmdb/shows?trakt_id=8852
https://trakt.tv/transition/tmdb/shows?trakt_id=1953 (prime example of being migrated…)
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I agree it’s a general collection and should be using the show name and not just a generic name, but this is much better than classing them as movies
A “show” can have one “episode”, or a “show” can have thousands of “episodes”, just because there is one “episode” does not make something a movie
I dont see your point of something having a different name in the US or UK or anywhere else, the data should reflect it’s origin
Thats ok if they go stale, I dont use tmdb for tv, so their data is irrelevant to me
One that needs some manual love is The Great British Bake Off.
After 7 seasons, in 2017, it moved networks from BBC Two to Channel 4.
TVDB (and IMDB) consider the Channel 4 seasons to be a continuation of the same series (with the current season being “Season 12”).
TMDB’s stance is that, since Channel 4 labeled their first season as “Series 1” on their website, it is a different series, so has the BBC seasons and Channel 4 seasons as two different shows.
If we’re moving to the TMDB world, Seasons 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 of Trakt ID 34400 need to be merged into Seasons 1,2,3,4 & 5 of Trakt ID 174953. (FWIW, I don’t think this is the “correct” decision, but it’s TMDB’s rules!) There’s also some merging necessary of the “Specials” but I can submit that in another place!
I made my fair share of edits recently and still have close to 80 recent reports untouched on TMDB so regardless I’ll end up with dead stuff on trakt and it will be the same for lots of other people. Is this at least ready now to be properly communicated? Not that a week is gonna change much but it will be a lot more frustrating for people when they can’t even compare up to date data anymore (and fix stuff themselves)… Kate’s gonna have fun but I hope she won’t have to deal with this alone…
It was more to emphasize that loosely associated content would often be better of in the movie section.
Figured as trakt users we would care about this but OK 
I did care, I have spent years updating tvdb, which i still use with Plex/Emby, I have no time to update another database
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This does indeed read like a more “hard” cut than what trakt is doing: TMDb Migration Issues and Questions - Help and Issues - SeriesGuide Community
While the “accidental” switches left in plenty of junk data too they at least won’t give you additional plays.
Fair enough. I’d be in the same boat if it weren’t for the TVDB devs actively trying to ruin their own database. The way you earn the free key is also scummy af.
Certainly curious now as it looks like the Plex userbase can still use TVDB data through their scrapper Support for new TheTVDB.com policies and API - #2 by OttoKerner - Metadata & Adding Files - Plex Forum and other “file” oriented services too… Cannot imagine them all having to cash out crazy money for that.
This is the issue i had with the whole change over
There was one report on Reddit (I think it was), where someone mentioned having been told a high price, everyone just jumped on this as the cost and said we are not going to pay this
Did Trakt speak to the people at tvdb to get a cost they would be charged?
Perhaps Plex got a good deal for the data, because they actually communicated with tvdb about the change
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I created a new blog post the explains all about TV show metadata including importing, refreshing, and migrating. I’ll be sending this out via twitter soon as well.
I’m not going to dive into specifics, but we talked with a lot of companies and developers when reaching our decision to use TMDB. We determined that is the best choice for Trakt. With all due respect, a lot of the guesses about those conversations aren’t accurate.
Please use the “report show” link and provide those details. That way it goes into our support queue.
We’re all working on metadata related tasks include the support tickets, migrations we’re doing on our own, and building tools and UI to make it easier. Some of these internal tools will become more public once we’ve worked out the bugs.
I can look into some specific shows if you can provide examples. I want to see if this is a refresh issue or a missing data issue.
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Great to see that I can use the report feature for adding episode runtimes! 
However, can I report an entire season and then provide the runtimes for each individual episode? I have a lot of shows that need to be reported but creating individual tickets for each episode seems somewhat unhandy.
I’ve definitely noticed that there’s definitely a many-hours lag between my making edits on TMDB and Trakt picking them up when I hit “Refresh Data”. Not sure where that caching is happening (My uneducated guess is on TMDB’s API layer) but it’s a bit frustrating.
Thanks, I will look into that one.
Yes, that’s fine too and actually easier for us too.
Yes, that is due to api caching. TMDB cache updates a lot quicker then TVDB from what I’ve seen though.
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Does anyone know a reliable way of getting data force updated on TMDB by the mods over there? And/or would one of the tools allow locking a season on Trakt until the source data is eventually fixed on TMDB.
Essentially my current gripe is someone added 31 redundant episodes to Pokemon on TMDB over a month ago and this appears to have been reported multiple times as the show/season/episode level and nothing has been done on their end 
Yes, we can lock seasons and episodes on Trakt which freezes the data.
You can find initial horror stories about the pricing from multiple places like this but justin’s replies have indeed not been very specific (as indicated previously Tvdb changes to a subscribe model - #162 ;/).
Let’s all just pray that TiVo can keep paying the bills because some of those thousands of $$$s a day will now be permanently be shifting over to TMDB. (And if anyone doubts that this is an expensive endeavour to maintain just look at what it used to cost trakt before images were gutted from the API Reddit - The heart of the internet).
TMDB mods are volunteers - it’s sadly a patience game… You’ll only get snarky remarks if you bump your topic so you have better chances by waiting so it reaches their “backlog”.
H̶a̶v̶e̶n̶’̶t̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶v̶d̶b̶ ̶a̶p̶i̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶e̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶i̶s̶n̶’̶t̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶c̶a̶c̶h̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶’̶r̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶t̶y̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶a̶s̶t̶ (the statement I saw is def not true). TMDB is usually random in the amount it picks up before it caches. In my experience is more often than not the 8 hours of wait time to get it completed.
Thanks… this has some very strong “he-who-shall-not-be-named-vibes” which won’t help SEO :?
Was it intentional to leave two of the top 25 most popular show on the site as examples of not being migrated over? I’d imagine those would be a priority to fix… (support tickets are also already a bit behind now I must note).
It is serviceable as a resource to read back about it but this is not the “announcement” or “call for action” I’d hoped for. Imho there should be some kind of infobar on the site for the next couple of weeks or some info bubble where source is “TVDB” so users can understand the consequences. Twitter and the vip forums are not really reaching a lot of people I’d argue. This won’t be rectified anytime soon unless there is a reasonable pool of contributors (which TVDB at least partially secured by keeping that specific subset of users around).
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Due to remaining issues with v4 API the process has been delayed they say without giving an official statement. The cutoff will happen eventually, though.
I pointed out that this is some unofficial information. Take it or leave it.