I didnt do anything, was having a diskussion about serie vs movie.
And then i made a report of error in database and got blocked. One warning first i got 10days suspension, then baned second i didnt even knew i did something wrong.
Just baned and thats it.
Maybe it was the tone, or the attitude that they probably “get wrong”
Can you provide your posts on the forum maybe to get a better view ?
The attitude that i got ftom tvdb is more in the forms of
It is amazing how they cannot accept that they are wrong.
tvdb mod: no the earth is flat, you are banned
What I’m getting from this is that TMDB and TVDB are both terrible and Trakt should be its own database. We should be able to add things directly to the site.
I think it should be explored at least. Maybe instead of it being open to everyone to edit have moderators for individual series. I’ve always wanted TVDB and TMDB to do this. I maintain dozens of series on and I’m happy to test this. For YouTube series that are straightforward this could work. If the moderator goes rogue we have the option to escalate it to a sitewide mod or even post on this forum.
But then again…
Yeah I don’t agree with how they handled that.
I have unfortunately seen TVDB act much worse.
See my previous post on the subject…
That sucks, but somewhat anticipated given the endless back and forth. I asked for them to involve Travis in this and even filled out the submission form in hopes to get a response but it’s unlikely. He usually is more level-headed and would at least put down a clear stance from the site and not a specific mod group.
Never had much friction with the old TVDB mods, only some of the newer ones (and can’t speak to the payed ones since I stopped using the site) but I found them to be much more consistent.
Mods on TMDB while very busy were never my coup of tea. Before they had the bible it was just random at best and now with that written they reference it to ad nauseam even if it makes the listing worse without putting it through proper scrutiny ever.
They are also often passive aggressive, closed plenty of my reports without comment (unresolved), delete the wrong ID duplicate plenty (in rare instances even shows/movies which were valid but what they consider worthy of inclusion varies huh), mass removed keywords they didn’t feel like fit or leave a simple image removal open for over a year for who knows what reasons (Reported Problem for Tawawa on Monday - Discuss Tawawa on Monday — The Movie Database (TMDB) ?)… Many question threads are also left unanswered or you get a “on the to do list” / “we are not quite sure yet” that gather dust for years really.
I have had that issue popup recently, I messaged why was this closed and then it was fixed.
Sounds like a Good idea with trakt as its own database.i am More than glad both to be contributor and a member of the moderators team.
That would solve my own thought of starting a better database but my lack of programing skils.
Since we could still use all available databases, just fix their holes of incorrect info.
Since to this day there is no database that is 100% correct.
So far the moderators att tvdb have been alright to me. Only onetime i report ed incorrect episode. They gave the ansvers we have confirmed episode Number or something like that. So i gave up. Att least they gave me an ansver i couldnt confront. Give proof of oposite. Since my Sourse was only my own video ccollection and a plattform like HBO max. I couldnt prove that that episode ever aired or not.
Did you speak to TVDB to negotiate an actual price for the new API, and then decide to make the transition to TMDB due to the price being too high?
@justin You never answered this. I am going to insist that you respond.
Apologies if you answered elsewhere and I missed it.
Going to insist the he responds
Are you from the FBI or CIA then
Sorry, but I just find that hilarious.
I would say it’s up to Justin what he does with his website, I’m sure he’s not forcing you to use it.
I’m a user who wants Justin to give us a more complete reasoning on why he implemented a major shift of the website.
I said I’m insisting because I brought this up repeatedly over the past almost 2 years and never got a response.
What even is this dismissive response? Don’t you want an answer?
“What even is this dismissive response? Don’t you want an answer?”
NO, not really because it is not MY website to chose how it is run. I can make suggestion to Justin about things I would like and up to him if he thinks it a good idea or not. One thing I can’t do is INSIST he does something, especially as it is not exactly a new website, it has been going for a few years so I think Justin knows a bit about what he is doing.
Sorry chap but I’m just grateful that someone has more knowledge and skill to produce something like this than I do.
are we not passed this yet ? seams like a Grinch going on for 3 years now. Why ?
Everything has shifted, no “major” issues, yes tmdb is not perfect but tvdb was worst, try to get something fixed over there or report a wrong episode!
For me , i use it not daily, it is part of my life the shows and trakt, is like internet now, can’t live without it and i havent found a major issue for over 6 months now.
So can we just let it go and move on?
That might be the case for you, but not for everyone
I am finding tmdb far worse in quality than what we had before
New shows are missing
New seasons are missing
New episodes are missing
No details for episodes
Random run times
Shows that ended decades ago suddenly having unwatched episodes
Apart from run time, the above are mostly correct on tvdb
I also use trakt daily to add my watches, but with so much missing data it is becoming impossible to keep up with things
There is an easy solution to all of the above. Edit it!
I do exactly that for the shows that I watch as I want the most up to date information. It doesn’t get better unless people take the time to do some work.
If people are not prepared to put some effort in then they can hardly complain that things are not right.
By making an effort you are improving Trakt, which is what we all want.
Good for you
I personally dont have time to constantly add data to another website when the data already exists on another site (there are just too many issues with tmdb)
It wasnt my idea to drop support of good data for the poor quality we have now
Yes people can complain, trakt caused the issue, it’s upto them to fix it
I guess you are not a mainstream watcher. If you are talking about shows in smaller countries then i guess you could be right. But for me and many users (not an excuse) i really havent notice anything like that.
Can you give examples on each bullet point.
As @changnoi is saying you can edit, ok you do not have the time but how do you think the database in tvdb was made ? magically ? by OCR scanning ? someone did the time and harvest , put the data. Someone who didn;t have the time as you. Complaining without doing something is not the answer.
and no they didn’t
Furthermore, there are other tracking sites like trakt, of course nothing as sophisticated or big as this but you must weight your options. You loose some you win some.
Again please point out some examples, i’m very curious on some many issues
Here is an example just from today, this is from the UK’s biggest commercial channel
Season 2 started last week (episode 2 is on tonight)
as you see here, last weeks episode is the only one available in season 02, and there is no description for it
https://thetvdb.com/series/410733-the-larkins/seasons/official/2
as you can see, season 02 is upto date and with descriptions
using the same show, the runtime for S02E01 is 1h, this is on a commercial channel for 1h with ads, runtime will be more like 44 mins (this issue i am not bothered about)
This is just from looking for shows today
This type of thing is ongoing
I have spent years adding hundreds of episodes to tvdb
So spare me the patronising comments of just update the data
When you spend all that time updating things, and then someone comes along and says we dont use that data anymore, just re-enter it, then no, i am not going to find time to do it
NO, not really because it is not MY website to chose how it is run.
Oh stop it. Trakt is a for profit business. They made a decision that caused a major shift in the website and had us do a ton of upkeep work. It is not unreasonable to insist on a full explanation.
I’m treating Trakt the exact same as any other business.
I think Justin knows a bit about what he is doing.
And what he is doing is making a major decision without having a clear picture, i.e. an actual quote from TVDB. This is not good. It just isn’t.
We still don’t have the full picture, so no.
Plus series on TVDB and not on TMDB are being deleted on Trakt, contrary to what was said earlier in this thread. I’d also like an explanation for that.